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RE[7]: www.vigay.com et al
by andrewg on Fri 15th Dec 2006 15:46 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: www.vigay.com et al"
andrewg
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I'll address your original comment point by point.

Why is using tables amateurish?
Its not amateurish if used for table type data or for layout where no other readily available or easily implementable solution will work. But if you use tables for simply layout you are violating previously explained web design principles. Using tables in this manner is typical of someone who is an amateur. Please note that this does not mean the person is an amateur it is just typical of one. At times professionals produce amateurish work for a variety of reasons. I won't elaborate.

The fact that you can use CSS on tables is irrelevant. Best practice requires the use of correct semantics. CSS for layout will never be semantically correct and will also always break the ideal of seperating content from presentation.

What makes someone an amateur?
Never said he was an amateur or that using tables necessarily makes someone an amateur. See above for clarification. I'm an amateur by the way.

I think that accusing someone else of bad practices or believing that you are a better developer (or better anything for that matter) than the next person does not say much for your character.

I am sure thats not the cleverest thing you ever said. I hope that you didn't think that through before you typed it. Don't worry though even the most intelligent people say stupid things from time to time. So please be careful not to say I am calling you stupid, I'm not.

Back to why that statement not thought through. Believing that you are better than someone is not necessarily arrogant or even wrong. I am sure Michael Shumacher thinks he can race a car better than me, but he has every right to, his belief is grounded firmly in reality. Anyone getting there nose bent out of shape because someone thinks they are better at something than you is prideful. Please take particular note that there is a difference between thinking you are generally better than someone i.e. have more worth than them than thinking that you are better AT something.

Its also one of those statements convicts the person making the statement. You say that thinking you are better than someone does not say much for their character. Implicit in the statement is the belief that your character is better. It therefore follows that you have just convicted yourself of the same vice.

But I never claimed to be better than anyone at anything.

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