Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 17:45 UTC
X11, Window Managers Apparently, my article a few days ago caused a bigger stir than I had anticipated, not at all unrelated to the fact that my wordings may not have been optimal. So, let me clarify things a bit.
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by abraxas on Sun 24th Dec 2006 03:52 UTC
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This article seems like a lot of backpedaling if you ask me. I don't think Thom was taken out of context at all. He made a big stink about GTK and KDE specifically, despite the progress of development. It's not surprising he received the reaction that he did.

Another often heard complaint about the article was that I supposedly only cared about version numbers, and that open source software does not use version numbers for marketing purposes. This is an irrelevant complaint, as I only used the 'GNOME 3' and 'KDE 4' designations by lack of better names for both project's next generation versions (I could have called GNOME 3 'Topaz', but not everybody actually knows what Topaz refers to). I might have well called them Humpty and Dumpty. Other than that, KDE and GNOME developers themselves are never shy of referring to GNOME 3 and KDE 4 in a positive context, so I do not really understand why I cannot do so in a negative context.

Thom, have you ever thought for a second that maybe next generation desktops aren't anywhere on the radar regardless of distributor. That includes XP and OSX. Everything Apple has produced since the introduction of OSX has been a point release and everything released since Windows 2000 should really be considered a point release. Wake me up when OSX or Windows changes the desktop paradigm. Both KDE and GNOME have progressed rapidly in the past few years and there has been no need to artificially increase the version number.

As far as GNOME goes many of the projects planned for for 3.0 have been implemented in the 2.X series. 3.0 is only a collection of thoughts right now because no one knows what to expect from the next generation of desktops. When the ideas for GNOME 3.0 consolidate and it becomes obvious that the changes break the present API then work will begin.

KDE is a different story. I think the assumption that KDE 4.0 development is lagging based on KDE developers websites is a little ridiculous. A real journalistic effort requires investigation, not just opinion.

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