Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Jan 2007 20:11 UTC, submitted by sogabe
Zeta MauriceK writes about security in the ZETA operating system. Apparently magnussoft, sole distributor of ZETA, makes security claims [on the German version] that with ZETA "it is not possible to examine a system from the outside without notifying the user due to the architecture of this software." MauriceK seems to think differently, and even gives examples on how code can be executed without the user's knowledge in ZETA. In related news, BeUnited is no more. Instant update: the discussion concerning security just made its appearance on the Haiku m-l.
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There is no security.
by stew on Fri 5th Jan 2007 22:12 UTC
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Before anyone jumps in and declares that $OS_OF_CHOICE is ultimately secure, let me say this: there is no ultimate security, at least outside the scope of proven correct software (which means for probably everyone reading this website except 15 people: nothing on your hard drive).

Multiuser? File permissions? Firewall? Encryption? Signed software? History shows that all of these measures were circumvented in the past and there is nothing that leads me to believe that this won't change.

The easiest way to gain access has always been social engineering anyway, and that has already happened long before computers and software (remember what the original Trojan horse was). And that is something no technology can protect you from: there is no way your OS can tell if the program you just double-clicked it only doing what you think it does or a bit more than just that.

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