Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Jan 2007 16:56 UTC, submitted by Robert
Novell and Ximian Novell might have signed a patent and interoperability deal with Microsoft Corp but it is not about to give up competing with the software giant and last week released a study that suggests its Linux desktop product is better value than Windows Vista. The company's competitive guide compares SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop with Windows Vista and claims that the Linux product provides 90% of Vista's functionality and 10% of the price.
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kaiwai
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2005-07-06

The fact that you quickly changed the subject to applications availability tells me that you've basically conceded that point...

And the fact that you post a smart ass comment like that speaks volumes to the fact that you didn't read my comment, let alone comprehend what I was saying.

Studies can be bent either way; they're like statistics, you can bend to say what ever you want them to say - if statistics state that the number of reported crimes have gone up, a government will say that due to the increase in spending on law and order, people feel more confident that criminals will be caught; if the number of reported crimes go down, the government will claim that due to its tough stance on law and order, they've lowered the rate of crime due to the tough deterant.

I never said that I believed Linux was cheaper or Windows was cheaper; hence I gave an example as to how one cam claim one is more expensive than another by simply not using the tools that are available by the said software companies, and more importantly, its ignorant to say that there is somehow a blanket one size fits all idea that the cost said in the report can be duplicated in almost ever setting.

I'll add a precision to what you said: you don't need the exact same applications on Linux, you need applications that can do the same thing you need. After all, companies do switch from one app to the other even when they stay after Windows (like when we switched from Outlook to Lotus Notes).

But at the same time, even if they do move from Outlook to Lotus Notes, at the same time, the majority of their applications they still rely on, only run on Windows.

Where is Lotus Notes on Linux (as one example of the lack of application availability)? for me, no trial version simply says to be that its a big fraud; and no, I'm not going to delve through the bloated beuacracy that is IBM to try and plead of a 'trial version' - if they can't put one, smack bang on their front page, without the need of me needing to register myself to their download service, then tough-titty, they've lost a customer.

Customers want a good RAD tool, equal to that of Visual Studio, nothing like that exists on Linux, they want the ability to continue running the same branded applications, be it Dreamweaver, Quicken, Peachtree Accounting, Corel Draw, or what have you - until Novell pulls finger and actually does something about it, things aren't going to change.

Right now, Novell isn't doing a bloody thing about it! ride the horse that is Novell, but you'll realise after trotting for 300km, you'll find yourself again in the middle of no where, wanting direction, and the horse that is Novell, still dazed and confused.

To put it bluntly; Linux orientated businesses suck; they suck at what they do because they have no focus, they have no drive, they have no strong leadership from inside, they're wishy washy when it comes to setting up alliances with other companies, they fail to see the short comings in their own products in favour of bashing who ever happens to be the top dog at the time, and worse still, they can't even understand *WHY* customes choose Windows over their own product! they'd rather use 'vendor lock in' when in reality, "there is no bloody applications!" is the real excuse!

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