Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:45 UTC, submitted by GhePeU
X11, Window Managers David Reveman writes: "I'd like to get all of you updated on the compiz related things discussed at the X developer conference that was held last week. My talk was mainly focused on 'what's next' and how to get desktop compositing in X to the next level." He also discussed the fork: "I had the chance to talk to Quinn Storm from the beryl project during xdevconf. I would have hoped that the current situation with beryl could be improved but it seems like Quinn at least isn't interested in that. However, after talking to Quinn it's very clear to me that the fork was partially motivated by assumptions that were wrong."
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Just a development model
by siki_miki on Sun 18th Feb 2007 15:16 UTC
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Beryl is a hackfest with quick results, Compiz is a slower-progressing project but gets things right(er) most of the time. In the end, I'm not surprised that Beryl guys ('n'girls) are porting valuable features from Compiz. It was expected for Beryl to first run forward, and then start looking back.

But thr split was needed. It had to be done because of many average programmers and wannabe UI developers which wanted to do sexy stuff on their desktop (but didn't have vast knowledge needed to actually improve underlying stuff like xorg, DRI etc., after all there aren't that many people capable of doing it). So Quinn opened it to them, ability to "cheaply" boost self-confidence, have fun and give something to the community. To get to better state quickly, without waiting for stuff to be done, hooks and hacks were placed all over the codebase and beatiful effects (like blur) were created. This is not bad concept, it allows people to experiment, to devise new UI ideas and some of them are very good. Unfortunately, it can't last long as possible phase space of ideas is exhausted and one must commit to real, often boring and uninsiprative work of actually improving core to get to the next level where lots of possible stuff for experimentation 'opens' again. So i believe we shall see more of porting stuff from compiz, as well as vice versa with plugins, as neither project seems to be dying.

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