Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Mar 2007 23:08 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft Office program manager Brian Jones, whose work has centered around the Open XML document format, now says the so-called format war with OpenDocument is officially over. The winner, he says, is both. Jones made the statement in a blog post over the weekend following the release by Novell of an Open XML translator for OpenOffice. The plug-in enables the free, open source productivity suite to open documents created in the Microsoft format, as well as saving OpenDocument files into Open XML.
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RE[5]: because they lost...
by nberardi on Wed 7th Mar 2007 13:01 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: because they lost..."
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segedunum - No they didn't. They supported it at a time when they really wanted and needed to get into the office suite market, and they were not number one. That format has suddenly gone right down the pecking order at Microsoft. What flack did Microsoft take, exactly, in supporting WordPerfect's formats - or was this pulled out of the wind?

Maybe you should know your history before you go blabbing that you know everything.

http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/05/0041212

From the article - "so not only must an interoperable OOXML implementation first acquire and reverse-engineer a 14-year old version of Microsoft Word, it must also do the same thing with a 16-year old version of WordPerfect." referring to suppressTopSpacingWP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML

Also lets not forget - "Possible legacy MS Office rendering compatibility issues are identified using (deprecated) tags: For example, book 4 section 2.15.3.6, autoSpaceLikeWord95, book 4 section 2.15.3.31, lineWrapLikeWord6."

segedunum - Converting to a new format is up to an application to do. It is not up to the format itself, and the notion that a new format can be responsible for converting the old format to the new by itself is just so stupid it isn't even funny.

Why not that sounds like defeatism, not good software engineering? How many documents do you think exist in government today that were created on Work6, WordPerfect, etc? I thought ODF was going to be the savior where all these documents could be suddenly read and available to the masses? Because that is what the pundits convinced the politicians was going to happen.

segedunum - The backwards compatibility claims with regard to OOXML are non-existent. Think about it. The only way OOXML would be backwards compatible is if I could open a document in that format in Office 97, 2000, 2003 and Open Office without any add ons or modifications. I can't - because it's a new format!

Again take a look at the links above. All that you need is a translator to convert it in to OOXML. Because the depreciated styles and formats are still supported. In ODF most of these legacy documents are going to have to be totally rewritten to perserve the formatting that was originally available.

There is also too much volatility in the ODF format. It only looks forward and says forget about everything that came before me. That is what I meant about light weight. And forgetting about your past is a luxury that a document format does not have.

The famous saying comes to mind, "those who don't know history or doomed to relive it." or in this case only a bunch of purist evangelical fanatics will use it because the masses still have documents that are 5+ years old in their original format.

Edited 2007-03-07 13:02

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