Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Apr 2007 23:18 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "Sun's CEO Jonathan Schwartz loves to splatter the media with the line that Windows, Red Hat Linux and Solaris stand as the only operating systems of significance in the server kingdom. We've spent the last few years struggling to appreciate the seriousness of that claim. Sun's declining system sales failed to inspire much optimism about the company conquering the data centers of tomorrow with a deflating 'venerable' OS. A couple of recent items, however, have tweaked our view of Schwartz's favored claim. It could well be that Solaris - of all things - provides the 'iPod moment' Sun seeks." In the meantime, Sun upped the speed of some of its SPARC chips.
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RE[5]: The turning point
by binarycrusader on Thu 5th Apr 2007 00:25 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: The turning point"
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Those two are contradictory. What developer/workstation user wants to have to do a complete install every time there is a new version/updates available? That's counter-productive, and a great way to waste time.

Consiering that new versions / updates are only released quarterly, not very often. The point of the Developer version is to allow developers to experiment with new technology. It is *not* a fully supported stable release intended for developers that are looking for a hassle-free maintenance environment.

You misunderstand the purpose of Solaris Express.

I love Solaris, and I'm a big supporter of the "new" Sun (and I like the direction they are headed, as well) - but their workstation/desktop/developer push quite frankly sucks right now. They're headed in the right direction, but until there is an OS release that is modern enough to use on a day to day basis as a desktop/workstation (which is easily upgraded) available, nobody is really going to want to run it.

That is subjective at best. I used Solaris 10 GA (not express) on my workstation every day for a year or more before my work changed that I needed functionality only found in the Express releases. Therefore it fit my definition and need of a "modern" OS. It is far from accurate to imply that Solaris 10 (even the general release) is not a "modern" OS.

By your reckoning, Windows XP, and Windows 98 would also probably not be a "modern" OS since they didn't come with out of the box (originally) DVD or full mp3 support.

I'd love to have a Solaris workstation right now, but I can't - on a clean install (Sol10 11/06), on a fully supported system, using the included browser/etc, even going to and moving over the image rollovers "lags" the display. Installing nVidia's drivers doesn't fix the problem, either. Various other "niggles" of this sort exist. This isn't just on one machine, it's on all workstations I've given Solaris a shot on. I've seen things like this commented on repeatedly, and repeatedly been told it's a known issue and will be fixed sometime in the future. Not a good answer to hear!

Installing the nVidia drivers fixed that problem for me. I can only assume there is something else going on.

Not to mention the outdated software, not slightly, but severely. I forget the version number offhand, but Mozilla? Come on...

Solaris is an *enterprise* level operating system. Not your break-my-gentoo-fedora-whatever OS. This means just like RedHat Enterprise Linux, Debian Stable (arguably enterprise) and others, yes, things are NOT bleeding edge and by some people's reckoning "severely out of date."

When Sun can iron these issues out and provide a usable and at least somewhat modern OS,

They already have a "usable" and more than "modern OS"...just not by your definition which is rather inaccurate.

Mozilla 1.7. Yikes.

Oh whoopee doo. Seriously. RedHat has the same thing with RedHat Enterprise Linux, so does SuSE with their Enterprise distribution.

You want a newer browser? There are newer versions available that Sun contributes from, and from!

Finally, it is hardly fair to complain about the versions of software found in Solaris 10 considering it went "gold" a few *years* ago. Their customers demand stability, support, and compatibility. Yes, that's right, their *paying* customers. This means certain restrictions are in place on what can be updated and how often.

Edited 2007-04-05 00:28

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