Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 30th Apr 2007 02:59 UTC, submitted by Dan Warne
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "It's out love for Ubuntu that I'm being so harsh in this review. Look where we're at -- 7.04, a number of significant releases since 4.10 Warty three years ago -- and it still can't manage the display properly. I had great expectations for 7.04, and unfortunately they're not all met. If you're a fanboy, don't read on, because I'll shatter your fragile world." More at APCMag.
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RE[4]: Upstream issues
by oomingmak on Mon 30th Apr 2007 14:48 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Upstream issues"
oomingmak
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Do you realize how ridiculous what you just said sound? You shouldn't click on the file to select it?
It's not "ridiculous", that's exactly how single-click is meant to work. I would have thought that this was obvious.

It would make no sense to have a system that opens files on single-click and then uses the exact same single-click as the method for selecting the file (because the file would keep launching whenever you tried to click on it to select it). How can it be logical to have two totally distinct mutually exclusive file actions invoked by a single method? That's why mouse-over selection should be part of any single-click activation mechanism. To select a file you pause your mouse pointer over it, the file highlights and then after a short delay it becomes selected (but not opened). If you want to activate the file (i.e. launch/open it) only then do you click on it. This is entirely consistent with other areas of UI - e.g. if you do not want a menu to open, then you don't click on it, if you do not want to open a web link then you do not click on it. Why should it be any different for icons? (other than the fact that people have got used to clicking on an icon and nothing happening other than it becoming selected). In single-click mode if you do not want the item to open (i.e. you only want it to become selected) then you don't click it, you just point at it (exactly as you do with web links).

If people want to use click-to-select as part of their double-click activation setting then that's fine, but that doesn't mean that single-click should be made to select files in the same way that double-click does. It can't do (for obvious reasons).

Don't take my word for it. There is a long established principle for the correct implementation of single-click activation in Windows (despite your assertion that what I am saying is 'ridiculous').

Quote from the Microsoft UI Design Guide:
"If the user selects single-click activation, then use hover (pointer held for time-out) for click operations, and click for double-click operations".

Link (for the above quote):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dn...

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