Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th May 2007 18:54 UTC
Gnome In the GNOME bugzilla, there is an ongoing discussion about whether or not to include a patch into the default GNOME installation which would enable GNOME to (optionally) have a global application menubar, similar to that of the Mac OS and KDE (in the latter it is optional and off by default). Installation instructions and .deb packages, as well as a 60-page (and counting) discussion of the patch, are available on the UbuntuForums. Read on for a poll on this issue.
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RE[3]: Why?
by nutshell42 on Fri 18th May 2007 13:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why?"
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Microsoft got it right more or less (yes, yes, you may shoot me now ;)

In Office 2007 you can more or less create your own toolbar with the stuff you really need in the titlebar (+the file menu).
Those buttons are
a) easy to reach if the window is fullscreen, thx to fitt's law
b) but avoid the problem where you have to first move your mouse to a window, activate it, then move back to the top of the screen for the menu bar.

This behaviour is optimized for apps you generally use maximized and reduce in size only when you switch windows often, which more or less is exactly how most people use office apps.

Of course MS snatched defeat from the claws of victory on the UI front with Vista. There the toolbars are all over the place, and the menus, lists and sidebars, panels, buttons at the bottom, top and on the backside of your monitor. When MS started to copy OSX someone should have told them that iTunes isn't the best place to start...
Oh, and KDE's and XP's control panels are a triumph of usability compared to Vista's.

I'd be really interested in a DE where the office UI was used consistently for all apps. I suspect it might not work quite as well for some kinds of apps, but overall it's the best alternative to the old menus+toolbars paradigm that I know. (well, apart from the the elegance and simplicity of the CLI of course =)

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