Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Jun 2007 19:05 UTC
Debian and its clones FreeSoftwareMagazine takes a look at Debian as a desktop system, and they conclude: "I feel that Debian Etch is as good on the desktop as it is on the server. It has a long rich history, a strong community, is amazingly stable and is a great fit for both my servers and my laptop. I urge everyone to give it a go on the desktop."
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RE: Debian stable/unstable
by sbergman27 on Tue 5th Jun 2007 20:52 UTC in reply to "Debian stable/unstable"
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When someone makes a mistake and your Debian unstable is rendered unbootable by a libreadline, glibc or some other problem, the response is 'what do you expect - don't run unstable if you want stability', but then until recently debian stable was so ancient in terms of package versions that it simply wasn't suitable for modern desktop use.
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You've kind of hit on what I used to call "The Debian Shell Game".

It goes like this:

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New Debian User: I'm running Debian Stable, but everything is so *old*. Seems like the other distros always have stuff that isn't so ancient.

Debian Community: Just run Testing. We all use it. And it's more stable than the "supposedly" stable releases of other distros!

New Debian User: I'm running Testing and I've found all this stuff that is just broken. It's really causing me problems.

Debian Community: Well, Duh! If you run "Testing" you should expect that. That's why it's called "Testing" you goofus.

User of non-Debian Linux: Debian's packages are so old.

Debian Community: No they're not. We have stuff that even Fedora doesn't! (Speaking of Sid.)

Debian Community: Debian is the most rock solid Linux distribution on Earth! (Speaking of Stable.)
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There was really no way, effectively, to make a criticism of Debian. Because Debian fans could just keep moving the shells around and you were mired in an eternal cycle of trying to describe which shell your criticism was about.

That worked before Debian had strong competition in its own back yard.

Now that they do, I can't help but notice that they are actually competing again, rather playing the shell game and hiding behind the "It's ready when it's ready" defense, year in and year out.

Ain't competition grand?

Being Free/Open Source does not protect an organization from complacence.

When competition (finally) knocks at the door, even the most revered of the Free Software players have to jump just like the rest of us.

I like that. :-)

Edited 2007-06-05 21:02

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