Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Jun 2007 10:29 UTC, submitted by binarycrusader
Oracle and SUN Simon Phipps of Sun has responded to the recent criticism of Sun's openness, pointing out that even releasing information that they may already have costs a lot of money. "Jonathan asked me to look into this, to ensure we're pursuing an open path across all of Sun, not simply the software group. We take all input seriously, and we can't solve all problems for all parties, but we're committed to doing our best to faithfully engage with all the communities we serve, in the same spirit as the existing Open Source Ombudsman Scheme. With the support of my team and others in the community I'll try to build a new scheme that is fair and transparent."
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What is openness?
by phoehne on Tue 19th Jun 2007 16:34 UTC
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I come from the openness debate from a pragmatic perspective. I like open source systems for the visibility it gives me. What I don't like are religious warriors claiming X is not open enough, for that Y shouldn't be used because of the proprietary drivers. What I really, really hate are "open source" companies that keep all the interesting keys to the kingdome to themselves. I don't think (deep-down) Theo is the former and I don't think Sun is the latter. I also recognize that a system like Solaris, or the SunFire platform is not the intellectual property of one company and that it takes time to 1) convince other vendors to open up and 2) work around any pieces that other vendors refuse to open.

I think Sun has done an admirable job, and I'm looking at deploying our next applications on Solaris 10 for x64. (Something I would not have considered under closed source Solaris). I even think it's okay for Sun to bundle closed source pieces as I would rather have good quality drivers for the hardware than often slower performing (lowest common denominator) pure open-source drivers. (For example, some closed source ATI drivers versus open source ATI drivers). However, this is a short term solution to the current hardware available and Sun should understand STOP BUYING HARDWARE FROM VENDORS THAT REFUSE TO OPEN THEIR DRIVERS. If all major vendors (IBM, HP, SUN - Dell is happy to live in shit and sell Windows) started making openness as a requisite, then Broadcom, ATI, NVidia, etc. would deliver and the driver/hardware issue would be a mute point.

Edited 2007-06-19 16:36

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