Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Jul 2007 22:40 UTC, submitted by zaboing
Gnome During his opening speech at the GNOME Developers conference GUADEC Jono Bacon, community manager for the Ubuntu distribution, called for a common vision inside the project, an area in which the project as a whole is currently lacking. Only a few hours later Red Hat developers Havoc Pennington and Bryan Clark presented their own proposal for a reinvention of the Open Source desktop: The GNOME Online Desktop. My take: As I have been saying for a long time, GNOME needs a vision (and leaders) for the future. I'm glad that people are finally stepping up.
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RE: Revolution? Sounds Fun.
by sorpigal on Thu 19th Jul 2007 03:46 UTC in reply to "Revolution? Sounds Fun."
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* Standardize on Ubuntu or whatever. Pick one.

This will not and should not happen. I know the gut feeling tells you one distribution is a good idea, but it would not be healthy for the market or good for the users (same thing, really) and it is not happening. Ever.

* Unify KDE and Gnome

That's also a bad idea. Windows and OS X don't even have one unified widget set and development API. OS X is closer than any, but still... I know what you wanbt. You want look-and-feel to be the same between the apps. You want seetings (e.g. default font browser, etc.) to be the same. You're going to get it, slowly, but you are not going to get the two projects to merge and youa re not going to get one of them to die off.

* Drag and drop application installation and deletion and bundle support to the same level OS X has

You can get this today, if you use a distribution which works this way. You'll find that in many scenarios, and for certain types of people, this is really bad behavior. Making it something done by a 'desktop-oriented' distribution and not by e.g. a workstation-oriented distribution or a server-oriented distribution makes good sense. Even if you could get most distributions over to using this installation/package management model it would not be a good idea and would (among other things) simply cause more distributions to spring up and serve the people who don't like app bundles.

* The complete and utter end to any end user ever having to touch X config files - or any other unix text config file

For X this is coming Real Soon(tm). For the other htings, it depends on what you're doing. You will probably have to hand-edit config files for most server-type programs (daemons: postfix, apache, slapd) for the forseeable future. The fix for this is debatable.

* A complete overhaul of font rendering so that it is out of the box on par with OS X

OS X fonts suck as much as Linux fonts, in my opinion. Making fonts render in a more OSX-style will just spin wheels, not improve things.

* A complete overhaul of UI widget alignment in applications.

You can't make people do things like that. You can suggest it and beg for it but you cannot enforce it. While it would be nice if all apps acted the same way in this regard where doing so made sense the reality is that it is not necessary and will not happen any time soon.

* A complete set of open source apps of the calibur of Apple's iApps.

Mostly done. Equivalent functionality mostly exists in one app or another. Getting a unified look and feel for all of them is a pipe dream (herding cats...). The reality is that polish takes time and dedication, which is easier if you're paid full-time and not so easy if you're writing the app in your spare time. Each application's usability will need to be incrementally patched to correctness. I expect *you* to do this, since you seem to think you know what changes are needed.

Be notified of system software updates. Be notified of application software updates

You've got it, if the distribition wants to bother.

Rip, sync with your iPod, and play music

I think this is a laughable feature. Playing music? Check, got that one years ago. Sync with an ipod? Syncing with portable music players is not a killer desktop feature. And, anyway, it mostly depends on a good music playing app, of which we have several some of which already sync with the ipod.

Import, organize, tag, show photos from digital cameras

If your camera is supported this is essentially done. Again, the distribution would need to make sure the existant software is tied together to make it work out of the box.

Single click to download apps, drag them anywhere, have all app resources packed in a bundle type structures, and all dragging to the trash

Not a good idea. See above.

Making consumer grade software is grueling and time consuming and very unglamorous.

Agreed, but making stuff work like OS X is not a good goal.

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