Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2007 21:20 UTC, submitted by Innova
Gentoo "Over the past few days, I discovered that the Gentoo Foundation's charter is in the process of being revoked by the state of New Mexico, apparently due to regular paperwork not being filed by the trustees. What this means is that the Gentoo Foundation is currently hanging for its life by a string, and at any day could cease to exist as an entity. That is the very bad news. The good news is that I was able to talk to Grant Goodyear (trustee) this morning on the phone, and I have confirmed that Grant had received my email about the revocation issue that I sent 2 days ago and that he will be resolving this critical issue in the next couple of days by filing the appropriate paperwork with the state of New Mexico, and this paperwork will also remove me as President of the Foundation."
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RE[3]: Please Explain
by b00gie on Mon 23rd Jul 2007 23:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Please Explain"
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Flames for what?

Well, for many things. I think most e.g recommendations for changes end up to flames lol ;)

Ok, but Gentoo's portage makes this a moot point at least in the software side of things. What would I like to see in Gentoo "moving forward?" Perhaps a lower learning curve by catering to Linux newbies. I mean we all could RTFM... But I guess the livecd and installer needs to be perfected, as well as hardware detection and setup. Sabayon Linux goes a long way to put together a "user friendly" live cd with all the bling. It's just a Gentoo derivative which can still be updated using portage (Sabayon isn't what I'd call a fork)

Who talked for newbies? Innovation is an advantage only for newbies?
Even portage, an innovation by drobbins back then, has after many years great flaws and demands serious rewrite. There was portage-ng, not any more...
Sabayon is a nice starting distro that gentoo should support... but i think they have decided not to do it.

I run a testing system, but if a particular ebuild is unstable, I know how to choose the version I want. I agree some things could be updated to "stable" faster, but overall I can choose what I want when I want it. Version identifiers, i.e. 2007.0 really don't mean anything. An emerge -uD world brings you up to date. No matter which installation year you started with.

well if you dream for a farm of testing machines then yes this is your distro. But many more don't want to have every now and then broken emerges so they stack with stable versions.
Consider that we are not talking even for bleeding edge here but what upstream call stable and other distros have already stabilize and release in their products while gentoo still track bugs.
New version releases mean many things.
One is that are useful for new installations (i dont think you would like to build a new gentoo installation with 1 or 2 years old cd and stages) and of course it's also a sign that something is wrong. "You have a schedule. You miss it. You miss it again and again. Fix your management ffs are you blind?!"

I guess this may be true, but I assume somebody else takes their place. Gentoo seems community driven to me.

not always and a newbies developers doesn't compare with some guys who have spent years developing in gentoo project.
It takes time to find how things work.
I remember when flameeyes resigned, this guy was maintaining so many things by himself.I think that is a reason they have delayed to stabilize a new kde version. Ofcouse he came back after a while and he doesn't work on so many things now but the point is that you can not ask from someone to spend all his free time fixing things that should be others responsibility.

Edited 2007-07-23 23:52

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