Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Sep 2007 17:23 UTC, submitted by troy.unrau
KDE Ars takes a look at KDE 4.0 Beta 2, and concludes: "This beta may not be the end result yet, but there has definitely been a lot of progress since the last one. For the first time I have been able to stop writing about individual features within KDE 4 and start to talk about the level of integration, and general feel of the system to get an impression of how KDE 4.0 will feel like to use."
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RE[2]: You see?
by aseigo on Tue 4th Sep 2007 19:25 UTC in reply to "RE: You see?"
aseigo
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> The worst (least stable, less mature) piece of KDE4
> until now is exactaly Plasma

hm. and this is based on .. how much experience using kde svn?

that said, yep, lots more to do. and it will get done.

> developed by Aaron Seigo

a) that's not fair to the others involved. go look at the svn logs to see just how poorly this represents the full picture

b) it's not the only thing i have to take care of. wish it was, but it isn't.

those are more clarifying points than argumentation, but i think they are useful to bear in mind.

i'd also note that pretty much nobody else is seriously working on how to re-jig the desktop workspace of a production system in a similarly holistic manner. it's a rather interesting and difficult set of challenges and questions.

> So I don't know how can we simply say he was right
> when Plasma wasn't able until beta2 to produce a
> decent replacement for kicker 2 months before the
> final release (before the extra two months delay)

whether i'm "right" or not, fact is plasma will be there. see, people were screaming "vapor!" and "hype!" and similar stuff. now that we're delivering we get called to the carpet for not delivering faster ("you only made beta2!"). seriously, wtf =)

i'm actually chuckling out loud right now because it's quite funny. a bit absurd, but also funny. maybe the two are the same thing.

oh well .. we're still working away on it regardless of the peanut gallery =)

> Actually I think dropping kicker without a full
> Plasma (including plasmoids) already in 4.0.0 was
> a very bad idea

and now you're posting from the future? ;)

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