Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd Sep 2007 13:43 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Just like Eugenia yesterday, I also upgraded my laptop's Ubuntu Feisty installation to Gutsy a few days ago. The upgrade process went completely awry, though, so I was forced to do a fresh install. Not a bad thing, as it gave me the opportunity to take a look at Ubuntu's soon-to-be-released Gutsy Gibbon with GNOME 2.20
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Now, if you'd rather fanny about and have everything written in the same inferior toolkit, minimising the functionality and overall usability of an application, that's entirely up to you.

Minimising what? I can do whatever I need to do on GNOME, and I can do whatever I need to do on KDE. You make it seem as if I'm in some way 'pro-GNOME' just because I do not wish to mingle Gtk+ applications with Qt applications. That's kind of a weird deduction there.

It's fine you hate Gtk+/GNOME (be honest about it for once), but please don;t try to shove me in a pro-GNOME corner. There's enough to not like about GNOME/Gtk+.

Or should that be GTK applications look and behave differently? ;-)

In a Gtk+ environment, Qt applications stand out like an eyesore. In a Qt environment, Gtk+ applications stand out like an eyesore.

I'd go and ask the Gnome people why they decided to go off on a Mac trip and make everything inconsistent with Windows, KDE and every Unix desktop that had gone before. There was zero evidence to back that decision up, other than it's the way that the Mac does things.

Well, this approach hasn't been very ineffective. Basically all major Linux distributions default to GNOME right now, so I'm not entirely sure where this "zero evidence" comes from. Het heeft hen geen windeieren gelegd, so to speak.

Listen, if you want to have a good bitch about this, and since this article is about Gnome on Ubuntu, why don't you ask some of the Gnome developers what they're doing to adequately solve this problem and what they're doing to integrate Freedesktop software like QtGTK to help with this? There's quite a bit in there for doing the reverse to get KDE and Qt applications integrated into a GTK environment.

For the millionth time: I don't have a need for Qt applications in a Gtk+ environment! Jesus Christ, how many times do I have to repeat this? Gtk+ applications serve my needs JUST FINE. What's up with this militant approach of trying to shove applications down my throat that I don't want, nor need!

Do not bitch at everybody else if the desktop you're using isn't doing anything to help and ease this problem in a sane manner, [ bla bla pointless flame]

A big, deep, and long sigh. THERE IS NO PROBLEM. I'm content with the Gtk+ applications as they are, and when I'm in a Gtk+ environment, I haven't a need a Qt application could fulfill. Is that so hard to understand?

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