Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd Sep 2007 13:43 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Just like Eugenia yesterday, I also upgraded my laptop's Ubuntu Feisty installation to Gutsy a few days ago. The upgrade process went completely awry, though, so I was forced to do a fresh install. Not a bad thing, as it gave me the opportunity to take a look at Ubuntu's soon-to-be-released Gutsy Gibbon with GNOME 2.20
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Thom, about that vertical tab paranoia that you have. Would you say that this
would be somehow better in this context? The sidebar-type thingy is ALWAYS there staring at your face, whereas the Amarok sidebar can be removed with just a mouse-click. Then it's GONE! Gone, with all the devastating and horrifying context information. And the only remnant will be a small vertically-tabbed bar on the side. The rest would be devoted to the play list.

You can completely remove the sidebar in Banshee. Just click the drag handle, and drag it to a close. Gone. I like Banshee. Simple, to the point interface.

Or is this
very good usability-wise? This is IMO the case of stuffing unneccesary items on top of each other. All in the spirit of the oh-so-great Gnome HIG.

That's not very desirable. I don't like the weird two-on-top-of-one designs (you see it in more music players). This particular type of view is better when the three boxes are all side-by-side, similar to how the Finder in OS X does it.

The fact that you cannot take anyone, who doesn't share your deep hate against vertical tab bars, seriously is a sign of the limitations of your firmware, not a valid point to diss Amarok.

Right. I could just as well say, the fact you do not see that vertical tabs are evil is a sign of the limitations of your firmware, not a valid point to praise Amarok.

When the sidebar is displayed, then the UI is divided into the playlist part and the sidebar part. Compare that with Rythmbox where you have several separated lists for whatever.

A music player should not need such a divide - especially not one that bring about tabs and scrollbars. Whenever scrollbars and tabs appear, it generally means you want to display more information than a window can handle - and hence, you need to cut down on the amount of information you want to share.

And I don't care about Rythmbox.

[a whole lot of stuff Amarok can do]

That's all nice, but it is besides the point. Amarok does a whole lot, and as I've said before, if that is your cup of tea, than great. However, that does not negate the fact that Amarok tries to show too much information all at once, and its GUI suffers from it. Any music player that needs to resort to tabs-in-tabs, vertical tabs, and scrollbars-in-window-sections needs to re-think its UI.

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