Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Oct 2007 14:14 UTC, submitted by Dorka
Intel Intel announced today its line of Itanium products for high-end computing servers. Codename Montvale, the chip is an update to Montecito, the Dual-Core Itanium 2 chip which was launched in July last year, Eddie Toh, regional platform marketing manager of Server Platforms Group for Asia-Pacific at Intel, told ZDNet Asia in an interview on Monday.
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RE[4]: I can't believe it...
by foobar on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 00:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: I can't believe it..."
foobar
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"Before you use such language, I recommend you understand what you posted.

The current offering from ibm, the Z9, is a 90nm process just like Itanium. For the reasons I cited. The Z6 will come out in 65nm just as the new IA64 65nm parts roll out in a year or two. The Z-series are the types of systems targeted by the superdomes and integrity series from HP. Z-series don't use Power6, but the z9/z6 which have some commonalities but are different enough to be their own beasts.

The consumer parts go in a more aggressive process shrinking than the carrier-level grade stuff that is usually 1 or 2 process geometries behind. The reasons being some of the ones I cited before on why the IA64 and Z-series stuff are fabbed in less "sexy" 90nm.

http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/511/poindexter.html

So rather than say I am full of crap, just bother to read the links you referred. In any case, I get a chuckle about all this nm stuff when most people in this forum don't even understand the basic operation of a transistor :-)"




I read what I posted. In fact, I attended the z6 presentation.

Let's start from scratch. Here is what you originally posted:




"That is why a lot of IBM mainframes are not using Power6 but rather some "unsexy" 130nm processors. Because even at 90nm electron migration may be considered too risky. "




I never disagreed with your argument. I took issue with the numbers that you tried to use to support your argument. They are just wrong. The z9 mainframes that IBM is selling today with their bluefire processors are 90 nm. They are not "unsexy" 130 nm. It's nice that you corrected yourself in your reply ;)

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