Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 2nd Dec 2007 22:44 UTC, submitted by Moochman
KDE The newest version of KDE Four Live, an openSUSE-based Live CD for testing KDE 4, was released three days ago, just nine days after the initial version that included Release Candidate 1 was released. KDE/openSUSE dev Stephan Binner announced the release on his blog, celebrating the strong public interest in the initial RC1-based Live CD - over 10000 downloads achieved in the first few days. Meanwhile, although mainstream reviews of RC1 are still scarce, Binner's blog announcement of the previous version contained this interesting tidbit: "It looks like whatever [version of KDE 4] will be released or presented at the event which was fixed by the sponsor to happen in January will be only used by very early adopters. Hopefully openSUSE 11.0 will be able to ship some KDE 4.1.x release or some very high KDE 4.0.x release (which saw some light features freeze lift)," he wrote. Readers are welcome to download the newest Live CD (Torrent) and test it for themselves. A Debian LiveCD is also available, but it still includes KDE4 Beta4 and not RC1.
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NetworkManager GUIs
by danboid on Tue 4th Dec 2007 00:46 UTC
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I say that I've had many problems with the reliability of and never been happy with both knm AND (GNOME) nm. I want a totally reliable, hot-swap proof wifi GUI where I only have to enter my WEP/WPA(2) password ONCE unless I decide to change it. I have only seen these requirements met with Mandriva's own network/wifi management tool - Mandriva 2008 having by far the best wifi networking support I've seen yet in a Linux distro.

What is all this nonsense with knm and kwallet?? I need to enter a password to use kwallet which makes a sick joke of the whole situation!? No I DON'T want kwallet to remember my password as I don't want to enter a password for my passwords!! Is this a joke? nm does remember my passwords without a password but still has its quirks and doesn't work sometimes.

The drak tools are GPL right? What about 'KDE4-ifying' Mandriva's network manager because it really does work! I've been publicisig this quite a lot because Mandriva have done a great job here of solving one of Linux's biggest remaining weak spots- EASY, RELIABLE WIFI.

KDE devs: please just ignore the sad trolls. Why do people pay ANY attention to the KDE/GNOME mudslinging? Its totally immature and pointless. We're all very lucky to have (at least) 2 great FOSS DE's and its good that they have different philosophies, designs and toolkits.

Keep up the great work KDE (and GNOME) devs! Now I'm going to check out this new KDE4 live CD!!!

Edited 2007-12-04 00:55

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