Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Dec 2007 22:41 UTC, submitted by Patrik Buckau
Debian and its clones "The Debian project is pleased to announce the second update of its stable distribution Debian GNU/Linux 4.0. This update mainly adds corrections for security problems to the stable release, along with a few adjustment to serious problems. Please note that this update does not constitute a new version of Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 but only updates some of the packages included. There is no need to throw away 4.0 CDs or DVDs but only to update against after an installation, in order to incorporate those late changes. Those who frequently install updates from won't have to update many packages and most updates from are included in this update."
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MamiyaOtaru wrote: "My install started out as Woody, and is now Lenny, ... I think it's pretty neat I haven't [ever] had to do a clean install".

A Debian system that started out as Woody and has been upgraded that many times is NOT the same as one installed cleanly from scratch, for example, using debootstrap and then adding packages (apt-get install xorg, apt-get install kde, ...). Actually, the time package maintainers need to spend on the endless permutations of upgrading from whatever ancient version of the packages you started from (why not pre-Woody, i.e. Potato?), is a total waste in my view. And they DO waste time on this, because sometimes you can upgrade an old system to the latest packages but not a newer system. Learning to do a clean, fresh install is actually pretty simple: mkdir mybootstrap, debootstrap http://my_mirror/debian ./mybootstrap, edit/add a few config files like /etc/fstab, add a kernel (I use kernels so I can have one from a few weeks ago, not months or years ago, which is good if you are purchasing brand new hardware and want most/all the stuff to work), and you have a fresh current, supported install, not a series of 10,000 upgrades from an ancient install. Now you can tar up the clean install and blast it out to a million machines.

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