Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Jan 2008 18:22 UTC
KDE Ars reviews KDE 4.0.0: "KDE 4.0 was officially released last week after extensive development. The long-awaited 4.0 release ushers in a new era for the popular open-source desktop environment and adds many intriguing new features and technologies. Unfortunately, the release comes with almost as many new bugs as it does features, and there is much work to be done before it sparkles like the 3.5.x series." They were also at the KDE 4.0 release event.
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RE[8]: Comments Unfair
by Shade on Tue 22nd Jan 2008 18:26 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Comments Unfair"
Shade
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"And no, waiting another 6,12,18 months is not an option


Sure it is. You just don't like it. That's doesn't make it "not an option."
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OK- What happens in the broader ecology? The 3rd party apps all start another feature cycle against 3.5. Porting doesn't start. You still don't get a complete KDE 6-12 months down the road. What happens in KDE's SVN? The maintainers of the polished apps, since thay can't hack, move on. The developers of the less complete bits are hacking and bugfixing in a in an empty house as the first group developers is only paying marginal attention, or have moved on. Worse yet, you get this nasty case of incest-- Without a release you're preaching to an ever shrinking group of folks.

"Everything needs testing, and developers can't labour away at unreleased software forever.


They can and they should, at least until it's actually ready for release. I hope you NEVER said anything negative about Vista, after all, they can't work on it forever!

Let the world know: Leos says "don't bother testing your software or waiting until it's ready to release, just ship it according to a calendar and let the users find the bugs."
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Truth-- The KDE Developers pushed the release back twice. They assessed the gains of sitting on KDE 4.0.o for longer and reached a consensus that it wasn't 'worth it'.

I can't even tell you how ridiculous this argument is. If this were Microsoft (and it was), they would be skewered alive, but since it's an open source project, people are so forgiving. Maybe the groundwork of KDE4 is incredible, but what exists today simple doesn't show the user something finished, and that IS cause for complaint.


Well, there are a fair number of people doing skewering IMHO-- So it's hardly all flowers and puppies. As far as the 'not finished' goes, KDE 3.5 isn't 'finished' either. 3.5.9 ships next month. Software is never 'finished'. Now, if you mean, "Yarr, there be bugs and features have gone overboard!" I'm right with you.

Now, with that being said-- The difference between Virgin Vista or OSX 10.0 is that with KDE you'll see a lot of bugs quashed on the Jan 30th release. (With thanks to the broader testing 4.0.0 gave it.) You'll see panel 'regressions / missing bits' get filled in over 4.0.x, and you have the whole KDE ecosystem based around KDE 4 by the end of the summer. That's pretty darn quick turn around, no?

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