Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Apr 2008 23:39 UTC, submitted by TheNerd
BeOS & Derivatives Every now and then, the Haiku mailing lists explode with emails about something called the distribution guidelines. The Haiku guys set up a set of guidelines with regards to use of the Haiku trademarks and logos; the "Haiku" name may not be used in the distribution's name, official trademarks and logos must be excluded, but the Haiku icons and artwork may be used. In addition to these cosmetic and trademark issues, the guidelines explain what is needed in order to receive the official "Haiku compatible" logo.
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Valhalla
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2006-01-24

umccullough wrote;
-"Let's put this into perspective though - helping the users doesn't necessarily help the developers in all cases."

of course not, but helping the users doesn't necessary hamper the developers either. and in this case I can't se any negative aspects for the developers. bitching users will always exist, because most of the bitching users don't give a s**t about Haiku and just wants to throw some crap around. look at this thread, BSDFan used Haiku as a proxy in his war against Linux, and do you think primelight's comments are that of someone interested in Haiku at all? in short, bitching users have no correlation with the existance of a weekly image. unless of course you have some data indicating an increase in 'bitching users' after the existance of the weekly pack?

koki wrote:
-"There is nothing wrong with devs/hobbyists getting together and testing Haiku software. But you really don't need to create a distro for that. Of course, we can't tell people what to do, but if somebody wants to have their own little distro anyway, that's fine. But then, a different set of rules applies. This is not unique to Haiku either; many projects have rules that regulate the creation of distros, remixes, etc.."

but the thing is that there wasn't a 'distro', there was a weekly image using a nightly build and preinstalled some third party software that people downloading the nightly builds would have had to install manually otherwise. it clearly stated that it was alpha software and therefore unstable, it was targeted at the exact same people who otherwise download the nightly builds, only making it easier to use. it was you koki, who decided to brand this as a 'distro'. even talking 'distro' at this stage in Haiku's existance seems ridicoulus. and the only reason I can see for you doing so was to make it not worth the effort for Karl to continue offering this weekly pack. I can't see where there were ever any confusion to those who downloaded this pack, now however there might be, atleast until people realize why he had to change it to Senryu.

and should Haiku inc have chosen not to release public nightly builds then yeah, I would have understood the animosity towards this pack, as it would then be obvious that they did not want the public (which currently likely only consists of us Beos/Haiku hardcore fans anyways) to experience Haiku in it's current state. however the builds are being made available to the 'public' by Haiku inc, clearly linked from the start page so obviously Haiku inc wants people to try them out.

Karl's weekly pack only allows me to skip the steps of installing the software I want to try out, nothing more. how this can possibly harm Haiku's brand name is beyond me.

maybe this is some Haiku inc versus Karl thing that I'm unaware of, because I just don't get it. iirc there was no love from Haiku inc back when Karl started the Bounties either. and the Bounties have been great for Haiku. maybe it's about Haiku inc being in total control, but if that is the case then it's the wrong platform (open source) and definately the wrong licence (MIT).

again, I can't see whatever harm could be done due to the existance of a weely image containg a clearly labeled alpha build of Haiku with working software that people download the nightly images would have had to install manually anyways.

not confusing, not counterproductive, just Haiku fans making it easier for Haiku fans.

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