Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 28th Apr 2008 21:38 UTC, submitted by kiddo
Graphics, User Interfaces The trash can metaphor in computing is as old as the desktop metaphor itself. It was first introduced with the Apple Lisa user interface, and found its way to the Macintosh. Apple patented the whole idea, and sued anyone who tried to use the same name, resulting in other user interfaces implementing the exact same principle but just named differently. Despite its old age, and the fact it barely changed over the decades, many people have issues with the traditional concept.
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RE: on your desk?
by mono on Tue 29th Apr 2008 11:26 UTC in reply to "on your desk?"
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"Only a fool puts his garbagebin on top of his workspace unless ur workspace is on the floor, but at least its not an integrated part of ur workspace.
Under my real-world-desk is a trashbin and a shredder. The shredder immediately destroys the things i put in. If needed i empty the trashbin over the floor to search for something i accidently put in there."

And that's where you fail. There's no floor in graphical user interfaces so it's not possible to put the "garbagebin" there. And thanks god there's no annoying Dock in real life. It's totally pointless to find analogies in the GUI vs real life debate. They are completely different dimensions.


"And the funny thing on Windows (tm) is dat even the Recycle Bin is represented on the filesystem as a folder where graphical deleted stuff goes in, there is no native basic command available to control this folder from the commandline nor a switche for the delete command to move the files to that folder instead of really deleting it."

I don't get what you mean. The Recycler folder is as hidden as the .Trashes folder in OS X by default which is really a simple folder.
In Windows there's a command called cleanmgr which can empty the trash. However it's true you can't delete to the trash from the command line but that's for advanced users only and they can solve this issue with 3rd party command line tools i guess.
You may critize Windows because of these missing features but OS X is the same. You can't limit the size of the Trash, you can't restore an item from the Trash to its original location, etc.

To summarize i use your own words: only a fool deletes to the Trash in a graphical user interface. I'm a fool too because i have to use Mac OS X at my workplace emptying the Trash all the time (command-backspace -> command-shift-backspace).

Edited 2008-04-29 11:35 UTC

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