Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Apr 2008 17:40 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones While the technologies used on the web have always been mostly free, with non-free technologies delegated to non-essential parts of the net, this has been changing fast, lately. The popularity of YouTube has demonstrated the pervasiveness of Adobe's Flash, to an extent where not having Flash is one of the big downsides to any alternative operating system. And to possibly make matters worse, Microsoft is pushing its proprietary Silverlight technology. The founder of Mozilla Europe, Tristan Nitot, warns for "the dangers of the proprietary web".
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RE[2]: Comment by morph
by Doc Pain on Thu 1st May 2008 02:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by morph"
Doc Pain
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2006-10-08

no, html5 and ogg...


Yes.

the major use of flash these days are media related (youtube and similar). the rest are just bling for the sake of it (imo).


As it has been mentioned before, this is the main playing field of "Flash", but not its only one. Of course, regarding multimedia content, we seem to share the same ideas. Video playback should be handled at the user's site (i. e. from within the browser), just like libraries and plugins to it with any other content (images, audio files, Java applets). The user should be able to use whatever player he likes, for example, ebmedded inside the web page, playing in an external player, maybe in fullscreen, or maybe just save the file onto disk. Encapsulating and streaming techniques for video and audio content existed before "Flash", even good free alternatives, but as long as they are not widely used, users (or, to be more correct, the creators of web browsers and plugins) won't adopt to free standards.

Furthermore, "Flash" seems to have developed into an "HTML replacement"; this makes web content (if you can call it that way) completely unusable for disabled people. For example, blind users win't see anything. This is not entirely a problem of "Flash" itself, no, it's a problem of web developers unable or unwilling to encapsulate "Flash" content in a correct manner. HTML (and scripts) to allow to do it correctly. And what animated GIFs have been years ago, that's "Flash" today: a means to make web pages look ugly, overloaded with blinking, jiggling, beeping and blurring animations, oh what a joy - if you suffer from ADS. :-)

Things that are important to see should be put into a form that allows anyone to see it, or at least get a clue why it isn't possible to see. Todays browsers handle nearly any web content out of the box - you don't need an OS-specific plugin to see a PNG image or to connect to a web page that requests an SSL connection. And if your OS comes with the proper codecs, plugins and programs, you can play music files, watch movies and run Java applications. No big trouble.

In my opinion, anything that isn't entirely free (and "Flash" isn't, I'm sure we don't need to discuss this) has no place within a free (and barrier free) web. Don't get me wrong: There are places where "Flash" is a great solution, but as long as its availability is restricted, ... I think you get my idea. (A personal note: I'm living fine without "Flash" for years.)

One important argument seems to be that "Flash" hooks so deeply into the system that it cannot be implemented in an OS agnostic manner. That's poor. Even Java can run on any system. Why can't "Flash"? (I may give the answer just right now: Because it is not intended.) Should something that seems to see itself as a "standard" be allowed to decide what OS a user has to run?

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