Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 15th Jun 2008 22:40 UTC
"Internet Explorer 8 is set to be Microsoft's most standards compliant browser ever. After originally stating that IE8 would default to the same non-compliant behavior exhibited by IE7, Microsoft relented and plumped for standard-by-default. The first beta of IE8 was released in March and it did indeed default to standards compliance. Web developers have been clamouring for standards compliance for a long time; IE is a long way behind the competition, requiring considerable hacks and workarounds to get pages working properly. IE8 should make things a lot better - but it will still fall far short of the standards set by Firefox, Safari, and Opera. Some of these problems are technical, but others are cultural. Where the other browser developers are open and communicative, Microsoft is still leaving web developers in the dark."
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2005-07-05
"Pointing out flaws is of course not immature, except when the flaw pointed out does not exist as in the case of OP."
I don't know. IE sucks so bad to program for that I think one may very well be justified in pointing out non-existent flaws as well.
"If by closed you meant closed source = crap, then I beg to differ and provide Opera as proof."
No, I don't mean closed source. I mean closed as in not following web standards, but instead following Microsoft's proprietary closed standards. You are right, some of this has been fixed in IE 7, but not enough.
"Regarding "tied to proprietary crap" I would be very much interested and appreciative if you enlighten me what exactly constitutes this proprietary crap."
Same as above. Microsoft's CSS support is still not up to snuff, and IE should just drop ActiveX support all together. At least IE7 finally made XMLHttpRequest a native object instead of a retarded ActiveX object. All the other browsers follow open standards, Microsoft traditionally has not. They are coming around, but too slowly.
"The only major issue remaining, web standards support, is supposed to be resolved in IE8."
We'll see. When I can write web code on my OS X or Linux machine and have it run in IE without all the hoops and headstands, I'll share in your optimism.
"Yet, calling IE useless as a browser, especially for the common 'internets' user is, at the very best, unjustified."
I'm not calling it a useless browser for the average user at all. I'm saying it is a heap of crap to program for.
Now, IE does only run on Windows, and I would say that with the exception of games, Windows is a useless OS compared to everything else out there, so by association...