Linked by Smith Johnson on Wed 25th Jun 2008 19:07 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y A Computerworld blog post reads: "You gotta love it. Microsoft has decided that it will ho ahead and kill off easy access to XP on June 30th. On behalf of desktop Linux users everywhere, and our first cousins, the Mac fans, thanks. You've given us the best shot we'll ever have of taking the desktop."
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RE: For non-hackers
by lemur2 on Thu 26th Jun 2008 10:24 UTC in reply to "For non-hackers"
lemur2
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For those of us who arent hackers or super-nerds, Vista still works better than linux.


Linux still supports only about 1/3 of the hardware that Vista does...without the need of compiling kernel by hand every time you want some new hardware piece to work.


Boggle.

Are you on the crazy pills, or what?

Linux works on everything from mainframes to wristwatches.

It works on the following architectures:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_portability_and_supported...

It works on supercomputers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputer#Operating_systems

It works on embedded systems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_Linux
"Embedded Linux is the use of a Linux operating system in an embedded computer systems such as a mobile phones, personal digital assistants, media players and other consumer electronics devices, networking equipment, machine control, industrial automation, navigation equipment and medical instruments. According to a VDC survey, Linux was used by 18% of embedded engineers."

It works on servers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)#Server_operating_system

Have you any idea how many machines this represents?

But, even sticking to just x86 architecture for desktop computers ... when Vista came out it could run only on the very newest of machines, with hefty requirements. Most of the existing billions of desktop machines in the world couldn't run it ... but most of them can run Linux just fine.

Linux works on many many times more machines than Vista does. Perhaps ten or twenty times more existing machines can run Linux than can run Vista.

Gee you weren't far off, were you. It is probably "twenty times more" rather than "one third as many". You were perhaps only two orders of magnitude out.

Me, my biggest gripe with Linux is the WLAN support, having to use ndiswrapper to get windows drivers to "work" in linux is a pain

and seriously, as long as kernel devs try to force hardware makers to give away their IP for the +1% of marketshare they would gain, the hardware developers just wont take the bait.


There are some manufacturers of wireless chips who are reluctant to provide specifications for their chips so that an open source driver can be written for them.

However, the situation is not as bad as you suggest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_dri...

... just pick a machine which has a supported wireless chipset, and you have no trouble. I find that the easiest indicator is to note that it will work if the machine has an Intel wireless chipset.

Finally ... market share as far as wireless chipmakers are interested in it means share of machines (which include a wireless chip) that are selling right now, today are concerned.

According to this list:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/pc/565108
... of machines selling right now, 7 out of the top 25 (almost a third) have Linux pre-installed, and therefore they need a Linux driver for their wireless chip. If a wireless chipmaker is still refusing to allow a Linux driver to be written for their chipsets ... then they are missing out on perhaps 33% of the current selling market.

PS: the top-selling Vista machine on the Amazon top-sellers list, the HP Pavilion DV6871US 15.4" Laptop, has these specifications:
http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-DV6871US-Laptop-Processor-Premium/dp...

... which means "Be ready for the next platform in wireless connectivity with the integrated quad-mode Intel Wireless 4965AGN Wi-Fi chip."
... it uses an Intel Wireless chip.

This one in fact:
http://intellinuxwireless.org/
http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi

This machine will probably therefore run Linux way, way better than it runs Vista.

Edited 2008-06-26 10:43 UTC

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