Linked by David Adams on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 16:11 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
KDE "After the recent release KDE 4.1 beta 2 and openSUSE 11 with KDE 4.0.4, some critics have been especially vocal in expressing their displeasure with the KDE 4 user interface paradigms. The debate has grown increasingly caustic as critics and supporters engage in a war of words over the technology. The controversy has escalated to the point where some users are now advocating a fork in order to move forward the old KDE 3.5 UI paradigms. As an observer who has closely studied each new release of KDE 4, I'm convinced that the fork rhetoric is an absurdly unproductive direction for this debate."
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the MacOS-style menu bar

if you go to and search through the reports (admittedly, bugzilla's searching is about as fun as poking one's self with a needle) you'll find reports on these kinds of issues.

in this case, there's a plasmoid in playground which is pretty well there, and with a little polishing will be in 4.2.

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