Linked by David Adams on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 16:11 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
KDE "After the recent release KDE 4.1 beta 2 and openSUSE 11 with KDE 4.0.4, some critics have been especially vocal in expressing their displeasure with the KDE 4 user interface paradigms. The debate has grown increasingly caustic as critics and supporters engage in a war of words over the technology. The controversy has escalated to the point where some users are now advocating a fork in order to move forward the old KDE 3.5 UI paradigms. As an observer who has closely studied each new release of KDE 4, I'm convinced that the fork rhetoric is an absurdly unproductive direction for this debate."
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by aseigo on Fri 4th Jul 2008 01:20 UTC in reply to "KDE 4"
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With KDE marginalizing itself and Ubuntu becoming ever more popular, the clear emerging winner is GNOME.

it's an interesting theory, but the market numbers disagree with you.

at the current rate of expansion, KDE will likely be approaching 100 million users within the next 24 months. no, i'm not kidding.

one school deployment in Brazil will end up reaching 50 million students by then (it's only about 70% complete atm), and there are others in that same country at universities that have seat counts (not users, but computer seats) that are 80,000+. of the ~1 million retail units being sold a year with KDE on them in Brazil, some 70%+ keep KDE on them (up from ~25% 3 years ago!). and that's just one (admittedly large and KDE friendly) country.

we could survey Spain, Germany, Russia and China to see similarly impressive numbers. KDE e.V.'s legal council in Germany coincidentally uses KDE on the desktop in their offices (not why we hired their firm, we found out after the fact actually =), so the reach is big and getting bigger.

we also have working relationships with people like ASUS who put out devices like the EEE PC. more such working relationships are forming as well.

but here's the really exciting part: *and* GNOME is also doing well. it's not either/or.

if we could drop such either/or thinking for a while, we might actually allow ourselves to see the successes we are *all* achieving. and that might translate into something that really makes people take notice.

in any case, i agree with the issue of cooperation, though, and i've put my efforts and at times my own money where my mouth is over the last several years in an attempt to help make that cooperation happen.

did you know that next year we'll be co-hosting Akademy and GUADEC?

really exciting stuff.

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