Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 15:37 UTC
Microsoft After much, much, much speculation, Microsoft let the cat out of the bag today: due to weak results, Microsoft is going to cut 5000 jobs. Those 5000 jobs will disappear over the course of 18 months, with 1400 jobs being cut immediately. Quarterly results, as well as the cost-cutting measures, were made known in a press release today.
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RE[2]: It is a shame
by JonathanBThompson on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 23:08 UTC in reply to "RE: It is a shame"
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Yeah, sure! You've clearly got no clue how unions end up causing more harm on both sides than good:

1. At first, perhaps, unions seem to benefit the workers by making better working conditions. Well, that's all fine and well where there's safety problems and human rights violations. But honestly, if you've ever been inside Microsoft's hallowed halls, you'd have a heck of a time attempting to justify that.

2. Longer term, a union makes it nearly impossible for those that are slackers to get fired once they've been hired.

3. And of course, don't forget this: unions inevitably cost the workers more over time because they demand union dues, and also, once a shop has a union, you generally can't work there unless you join their union, and unions (outside of safety/rights violations) rarely have much value to workers, especially ambitious and competent ones.

4. Very long term, when unions out-live their reason to exist and don't disband (most never disband), they end up causing costs to go so high that employers can't afford to keep workers, and things get too expensive, the company goes out of business, and no work is available.

Look how well things have worked for the US auto companies for an example. Oh, there have been unionized engineering shops, but... generally that doesn't work out too well long-term. International Harvester, have you by chance ever heard of them???

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