Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Feb 2009 21:23 UTC
Windows Windows Vista has never exactly been a favourite subject among company IT people. Migrating from Windows XP to Windows Vista isn't exactly a worry-free process, and machines that run Windows XP comfortably may have trouble powering Windows vista. As such, adoption of Vista has been slow. Two years after Vista's release, the OS is still struggling in the enterprise sector, according to a Forrester report.
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RE[6]: Hmm
by lemur2 on Tue 3rd Feb 2009 22:12 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Hmm"
lemur2
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"Debatable. Very debatable. Using Vista, try to rip a track from a CD you have legally purchased to .mp3 (without any DRM) and send it to your friend who does not run Vista (say runs a Mac or Linux box). See if you can do it so that your friend can hear the result.
OK. I just now used Vista to rip a track from one of my legally purchased CDs (I don't have any illegal ones) to an .mp3 (via WMP), transferred it to my Mac, and played it with no problems. lemur, normally you're more clever with your anti-Microsoft FUD. It's not like you to issue a challenge that's so easy to perform and so easily disproves your anti-Microsoft theories. This challenge was so weak, I have to assume that you're totally ignorant wrt Vista, DRM, and even .mp3s. Of course, being totally ignorant on a topic has never stopped you from spreading anti-Microsoft FUD before (many times supported by lots of irrelevant links that you hope nobody bothers to click). But try harder next time; this latest effort was pitiful. "

I am going on second-hand info here ... I personally won't touch Vista with a ten foot barge pole.

My post did ask to try it ... I did not say it would or would not work ... it seems very much to depend on the source of the original content.

My second-hand information was: (1) Someone (on an online forum similar to this one) had used Vista to make a fair-use extract from a CD that they legally owned and had sent me that extract ... and I would have required to use Vista and obtain a permission certificate from a Microsoft server in order to play it, and (2) Someone has asked me why they can't use their new Vista laptop to extract tracks from CDs they legally owned in order to play these tracks on their car's .mp3 player system, when they can do exactly that same operation using the same methods on their older XP desktop system.

Obviously, from your anectdote, Vista's Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) is broken, because it doesn't seem to apply the same "end-user restricting rules" consistently all the time.

Finally ... I note you completely ignore the main objection to Vista DRM ... which is about the inherent binding of DRMed content to a particular platform (and hence software provider), that would (if allowed to become prevalent amongst media players) create a monopoly for reproduction of digital media content.

Edited 2009-02-03 22:14 UTC

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