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"Let me explain where it went wrong for Apple."
Sure you better now than Apple when it comes to software design.
"Chrome, the browser controls have become part of the web page, which from a web application perspective makes perfect sense: the browser buttons and address bar, in essence, are part of the web application. In other words, each tab in Chrome is an "application", one stacked atop another. "
That makes zero sense, what are you talking about?
"This design decision is something I expect from a 6 year old who writes his fist tabbed text editor - not from a company that prides itself on UI design."
Oh really, why don't you stop your arrogance? Did you ever design a software or a user interface? The answer is no, so what makes you think that you can tell you know better than some professionals with such arrogance? You don't write software, so you would not be better than a 6 year old in doing it, would you?
Let me get it straight. You are neither a software expert nor a professional in designing user interface nor even a software evangelist. You have absolutely no record on software UI design and engineering, so why are you pretending that you know about it? In other words, this means that when you allow yourself to judge about someone else work on software, please have the humility to do it in accordance to your competence.
That's ok to give your point of view, given that it is well balanced. Stop to make it sound that all you are saying is correct and necessary what everyone should think, again given your little professional competence in the matter. I do believe that there are good and bad aspects on this design (and come one trying to say that Chrome makes it better is totally stupid as the same fundamental problems arise with Chrome), but that should be said, not your collection of non-sense. Also you are certainly not old enough to
have such arrogance towards some people who certainly were coding when you did not realize that you were on Earth yet.
Here is a good review of the feature which professionally written
http://www.macworld.com/article/139026/2009/02/safari4tabs.html
Learn!!!!!
"The "3D" effect on the tabtitlebar is too overdone, giving me the strange sensation that my monitor is a 10km abyss. Taking the right-hand window controls section into account (which is lower down in the abyss than the active tab), as well as the fact that even if you have ten million tabs, the deepest tab still has the same effect as the one just below the active one, and Apple's tabtitlebar gives me the feeling I'm looking at an M.C. Escher sketch."
Crap, does not make any sense, you are saying nothing that makes your argument to be considered. Why the 3D effect should change when you have more tabs? Making it lighter would render the tab difficult to locate among a lot of them and it would certainly be not consistent.
"That's not all, though. Because Apple wanted the tabs to make up the titlebar, they had to ditch this well-established concept of spatial memory, making tabs change size continiously, since even if you have one tab, it needs to be wide enough to cover the entire titlebar. This makes the resize handle and tab title move around like crazy."
What? Read yourself..... Again you fail to explain what you mean by spatial memory, spatial memory of what, tab title, location, content, what? And why it does not wok on this design. You are just expressing your personal feeling without to explain why the implementation is flawed by design. And by the way, tabs size has always change as you add them, that's not new in this design albeit being more obvious. But is it bad? Couldn't we argue that such behavior gives more feedback on what it is going on to the user? And what is the resize handle you are talking about? The handle does not serve for resizing the tab, but only to move it. And why you bother that they move, of course they move as tabs are added, and what? They belong to each tab, so the user does not need to follow their displacement every time he/she adds a tab.
Also the handle for tabs in background only appears when you move your mouse over it, so how it moves does not matter because the user anyway sees what he/she has on the active tab.
"To me, it seems like Apple had heard that "Chrome has tabs on top", but instead of just being honest and admitting that Google got it right, they set a goal for themselves to make as many arbitrary and useless changes as possible so they could still claim they were innovating."
You are bitching now... keep going.
"ll these changes resulted in this botched and confusing tabtitlebar abomination that not only looks horribly out of place on both Mac OS X and Windows, but is also a functional disaster."
Functional disaster, why? All the crap that you wrote does not give any credit to such a statement.
"I hope Apple's Safari engineers recover from this monumental design frak-up quickly, because if this stays the way it is, I won't be using Safari on my Mac anymore. Which is a shame, since Safari 4 comes packed with lots of other interesting and useful features. I also like the effort to make Safari moe native on Windows, but it's two steps forward, ten steps back."
Yeah talk about engineers, you are not one, so you purely understand what you trying to talk about. Give yourself some air, come back to Earth, read your own personal description (http://www.osnews.com/user/uid:5/), you are claiming to be/become a journalist (well i try to keep myself laughing for this one too but anyway), not a software engineer nor a UI designer.
Again that's fine to express what you dislike in something, but don't make it as you were absolutely right in your argument and don't do it without a properly balanced argumentation.
By the way what a real UI designer thinks about Safari 4?
http://blog.cocoia.com/2009/02/24/safari-4-ui-breakdown/
Read it and don't pretend that you know better than him.
Edited 2009-02-28 15:21 UTC