Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Apr 2009 13:16 UTC
Xfce The Xfce team has released the first bugfix release in the 4.6.x tree of the Gtk+ desktop environment, Xfce 4.6.1. "The first bugfix-release of xfce 4.6 has been released. Thanks to all the people who have been using xfce 4.6 and took the time and effort to submit bugreports for stuff that wasn't quite working the way it is supposed to. We have been able to fix several issues during the past few weeks."
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RE: Progress is good.
by Doc Pain on Sun 19th Apr 2009 21:22 UTC in reply to "Progress is good."
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Yes, progress *is* good, but into which direction? XFCE always called itself a "lightweight desktop environment". It has grown beyond the point where it's just to be called a better window manager, which would be the state I'd consider it being in the 3.x version, where it was much like a CDE replacement. (In fact, I used a customized XFCE 3 installation for a customer who was familiar with CDE and wanted "to have this again" - he's still happy with XFCE 3).

XFCE has come to be my personal favorite window manager.

Desktop environment. :-)

For those who don't know, it is built with the same GTK toolkit as Gnome, and while they have a lot in common, XFCE is significantly more lightweight.

But still it will pull all the dependencies of Gtk 2 which may have a relativating implication on the term "lightweight".

If it really comes to lightweight window managers - because I think complete desktop environments cannot be lightweight anymore due to the many functionalities they simply need to have, tiled window managers, FVWM, Fluxbox and WindowMaker come into mind.

This results in it being noticeably more responsive and taking up fewer system resources.

In comparison to the "two big players", KDE and Gnome, yes, of course - while it's still worth mentioning that XFCE comes with many features that you know from KDE or Gnome, such as a quite good file manager and a versatile set of bundled applications.

XFCE also shares some similarities with CDE, a commercial GUI with great user interface guidelines.

This applies much more to XFCE 3 than to XFCE 4.

In spite of being lightweight, they have done an excellent job of making it user friendly, configurable, and pretty.

But still I would argue about being lightweight. XFCE is user friendly, highly configurable and can be made looking pretty, you're completely right. Due to the amount of needed libraries (namely Gtk 2) it's not *that* lightweight, but still better than a KDE or (a complete) Gnome installation.

If only they would seriously consider changing the name. That's my only mild beef with XFCE; I can only verbally communicate it to others by spelling the name out... 'X' 'F' 'C' 'E'. Who picks these kind of names?

In German: "Icks eff tsee ee", not that bad. I found that a 4 letter (max) acronym seems to better memorable than those "artificial words" that are often used for applications. Note that this is a special problem in Germany where functional illitracy is a problem of the society, it may be different in other countries. It's not *that* bad name, but I agree with you, something more descriptive or better-sounding could be nice. But in the end... who cares? It just works! :-)

Not that I get misunderstood: XFCE is a great piece of software. In most cases, it's my first choice (instead of KDE or Gnome), and my most favourite use of it is from within the FreeSBIE live system CD that I often use for diagnostics and data recovery preparations. Of course, the XFCE version on this CD is quite old, so it's much faster than today's version. :-)

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