Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th May 2009 14:23 UTC, submitted by hotice
KDE While most people focus on Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org as being each other's competitors, there's a third player in this market: KOffice. While KOffice is obviously geared towards use on KDE, it's available for Windows, Mac OS X, and GNOME-based distributions as well, making it much more platform-independent than Microsoft's Office suite. Version 2.0.0 was released today, and comes with a whole boatload of improvements.
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moltonel
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2006-02-24

Look I understand that package-managers make it much easier for developers to manage code, push out updates, etc--but trying to bolt on a package-manager for Windows is just broken behavior for that platform plain and simple.


Funny, last time I installed MSOffice (granted, a long time ago), it looked very much like a package manager : a big tree of features to install, insatll-on-request, or exclude. The only thing it lacked to be a proper package manager is handling of updates.

I've also seen the "installer which downloads the program" concept more than once in the Windows world, done by Microsoft, Adobe, and probably others.

I shouldn't have to sit there and try to figure out what libraries I may or may not need and whether or not the application I want is in packages A) B) or C).


Good ! That's what a package manager is designed to save you from.

Furthermore I should be able to get everything in a lump download if that's what I want


It sounds tempting... But you seem to underestimate the amount of dependencies that need to be downloaded. What would you say if a program packaged dotnet, DirectX, and half a dozen minor libraries in its one-file installer ? And again for every further release, even though the versions of bundled libraries don't change ? And make a whole new release when that small lib is found to have a security flaw ? And include that big package (say Kexi/Access) which you never use ? This is what you're asking for when you ask for one big zipfile.

Package managers are a Good thing. On Windows, most decent non-trivial programs end up (re)implementing one in one form or another, if only to manage updates. It's a mess, but better than the alternative. On Linux, the package manager is included with the OS. It's a pain that it's a different one for every distribution, but at least it's only one per distribution.

Being able to install software offline is one of the biggest advantages of Windows and it bothers me to lose it because the application developer wants to force platform inappropriate choices on the user.


I expect the installer allows you to install from allready-downloaded packages, no ? If not, it's certainly a valid feature request to send.

As it was, I watched the installer download a bunch of random packages from the internet for awhile and then canceled the thing.


Then you really didn't give the system any chance. Especially considering Koffice 2.0 is not targeted at general users, and KDE-on-Windows is a young, amazing-it-works-at-all project.

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