Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 13:55 UTC
Internet Explorer Yesterday, Microsoft dropped a bomb by announcing that all versions of Windows 7 released in Europe would ship without Internet Explorer pre-installed. This was in answer to the EU antitrust investigation currently under way regarding possible illegal bundling of Internet Explorer with Windows. The first reactions to this news are coming in, with Opera and the EU both lamenting the move.
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RE[5]: This is almost perfect
by strcpy on Fri 12th Jun 2009 16:54 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: This is almost perfect"
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Hmm, it's interesting. I suppose I would separate the IT industry from the consumer market.

That's a good point.

On the consumer market - the reason Apple has done so well, despite very expensive entry level products (their higher end stuff tends to bring more value per dollar, but their lower end stuff is expensive), is the way they tailer their software for the needs of their users- making important decisions for them to get them up and running, but not locking them in to those (this is unlike the smart phone, but that is opening up over time).

I agree with you on this general reason why Apple has been so successful. But imagine what would have happened if it would have been Apple to reach a monopoly position? Strictly from EU's broad perspective their platform is even more locked down; you would probably have to "unbundle" things all the way down to the microchips.

This _is_ the job of the OEM, IMO. They are the point of contact that customers tend to call when they have a problem with their computers, and I think that relationship is appropriate - the lack of an ability to address those calls (Dell) causes problems with reputation.

So ironically could we reach a conclusion that even more total Microsoft monopoly would have been better for the consumers. I am imagining here a Microsoft as a company with their own supply-chains, repair workshops and consumer contact centers? I know, this is an overstatement.

The biggest successes have all been custom rolled stacks (partially or entirely based on open source) - RIM's Blackberry, Apple's iPhone, Palm's Pre (if it isn't considered a locked success yet, it will be I think). This could also be due to MS's lack of competitiveness in the arena (Windows Mobile and Zune as two different things - shipping a version of IE6 in the Zune, sheesh!), but I think it's more based on lessons learned.

Actually the biggest success has been Nokia and probably Symbian. Both very much closed shops at least when they were at their strongest. Here I see highly similar (anti-competitive?) patterns that we experienced in the PC markets in the 1990s or so.

What I think is interesting about the cell and smart phone providers is they don't advertise what runs on the phone (is it Linux, Windows, Android - atom, ARM - who cares!).

True enough, but the big problem with OEMs remains. If iPhone and AT&T is not anti-competitive from a consumer perspective, what is!? :O

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