Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 13:55 UTC
Internet Explorer Yesterday, Microsoft dropped a bomb by announcing that all versions of Windows 7 released in Europe would ship without Internet Explorer pre-installed. This was in answer to the EU antitrust investigation currently under way regarding possible illegal bundling of Internet Explorer with Windows. The first reactions to this news are coming in, with Opera and the EU both lamenting the move.
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RE[3]: What does this tell us?
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 17:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What does this tell us?"
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I made no such claim. My claim is that you put too much credence into them. This point goes well beyond questions regarding the accuracy of the numbers.

I don't see where I'm putting any credence in them being accurate - in fact, I quite clearly stated that they are not a very accurate way to measure this stuff. Still, they indicate trends, and all of them agree: IE's share is dwindling FAST.

It extends to just what this sort of data is able to tell us at all. While business usage of public sites is no doubt covered... what do these statistics say about what happens after the employee logs into their warranty service provider account over at and starts trying to file warranty claims? Absolutely nothing. Have you even thought about that?

So there's an IE-specific site. Sure, it's stupid, but how often do you encounter it? Maybe America is running behind or something, I don't now, but the rest of the world is pretty much free of that nonsense now. Maybe some insignificant ones, but that's it.

The inertia of the companies providing the service started out as a symptom of the IE-domination problem, but has now become a very real and integral part of the total problem. But first things first. We need to address the root cause, i.e. IE-by-default, before any permanent fix at the level of the service provider is going to have a chance of happening, and more importantly, of sticking.

This is EXACTLY what is going on RIGHT NOW. IE is no longer "the default" browser people use. It comes installed by default - yes - but the amount of people disregarding it is huge, and growing every month. Companies will follow through, but give them some time.

You can't change this simply by snapping a finger. This takes time. Have some patience. There is no magic instant cure.

You are making it ever more apparent that you are not actually one of us folks in the trenches fighting and reporting on this battle. In fact, it seems that you want to deny that there *is* still a battle at all, because Chrome (mostly) works OK for you on your home desktop.

Will you please stop being so arrogant and condescending? It detracts from your otherwise usually good arguments.

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