Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Aug 2009 10:43 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE SUSE Linux used to be a very KDE-centric distribution. Then Novell came around, bought SUSE and Ximian, and slowely but surely they turned the now-openSUSE distribution into effectively a GNOME-centric distribution with KDE as its sidekick. The openSUSE community, however, doesn't appear to be particularly happy with KDE being a sidekick.
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RE[2]: Back in the day
by phoenix on Tue 4th Aug 2009 22:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Back in the day"
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Not so with KDE: you can use GTK-family apps, but they won't integrate well -- they may not even render or lay themselves out correctly or usably.

That's the fault of the app developers, not the KDE devlopers. GTK doesn't play nicely with anything except GTK.

You have the same problem with system-service type things that really should be DE-independant: on my Ubuntu lap-top, the wireless network-manager app works fine in Gnome and XFCE, but the KDE equivalent doesn't function, for example,

Yes it does. In KDE3 you use network-manager-kde. In KDE4, you use the Network Management plasmoid. They both hook into NetworkManager, giving you access to the same config database that network-manager-gtk and the cli version use.

and I've also had questions I couldn't get answered about the sound system -- like, can I get KDE to use Pulse Audio as Phonon's back-end, so that I can have multi-channel sound, and GTK apps will be happy?

Yes. In KDE4, you go into System Settings, into Multimedia, and set the preference for output in the Xine/Phonon config to use PulseAudio. You can also change the Phonon config to use GStreamer instead of Xine if you want.

I don't know if this is an issue that is actively considered, but I bet, if you give distro-maintainers the choice between "the KDE universe" and "everything else," they'll choose the larger "everything else" community, and for good reason.

Problem with that philosophy is that it's backwards. KDE devs bend over backwards to make KDE apps integrate and play nicely with GNOME technology. GNOME devs (seemingly) couldn't give two shits about making things work well with KDE technology.

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