Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Sep 2009 22:38 UTC, submitted by EvilWells
Debian and its clones Developer Frans Pop, author of debtree, posted an article showing the evolution in size of the GNOME desktop environment in recent Debian releases. The picture he paints isn't particularly pretty: the default GNOME install has increased drastically in size over the years.
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Linux bloat
by bpladirector on Tue 8th Sep 2009 13:40 UTC
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I am very new to Linux, and have been testing a few distros with virtual machine. I have noticed that people ask on forums, "what is the best distro?"

Well, yes that is a hard question and can't really be answered. But maybe the Linux community could focus more on what are the "worst" desktop linux distros. That can't really be done either as it is all subjective.
In fact without a site like "distrowatch" the linux community would be even more confused.

The office/multimedia applications that come with most of the Linux distributions I have tried should be considered mostly bloat is well they suck (abiword, koffice, rythmbox. Some don't come with firefox, but some "relatively" unknown browser. However, applications improve over time (well some degrade) and maybe should be offered a chance (I don't agree with this way of thinking, but it seems to engulf the entire open source movement. "Just give xyz a chance", err no thank you)

Arch linux has been the only distro I have tried that was not filled with crap (unless I put it there). Although, it was more difficult to initially install. I like Mint too, for the easy aspect (yes it is bloated but it works right from the box and it is good to have as a livecd............some distos should only be livecds lol)

KDE4 : I don't like how I am expected to select my applications (I prefer how XFCE does it). Perhaps I could change a setting.

Gnome: Uses lots of ram for me but less than KDE.

XFCE: Fewer crappy default apps. Accessing the application I want is more logical and convenient (right click). A noticeable amount less memory required.

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