Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Oct 2009 12:51 UTC
Editorial A couple of years ago, a professor at my university had a very interesting thought exchange with the class I was in. We were a small group, and I knew most of them, they were my friends. Anyway, we had a talk about language purism - not an unimportant subject if you study English in The Netherlands.
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Thom said:

For me, there's only one thing that matters: that software be treated like any other copyrighted work. If software vendors want to impose additional restrictions - then fine, but they'll have to handle it the proper way. Software vendors already know perfectly well how to do this: the enterprise market. You won't see a software vendor rely on a click-through EULA in massive software rollouts. Those are properly signed contracts.


Which supports my statement of:
Only thing wrong with the EULA is the time in which it is presented, and the manner in which it is presented.
Only valid argument concerning the EULA. What do I mean by that? The end user purchases the license before being presented with the conditions and what they need to agree to.

From a similar discussion in: http://www.osnews.com/comments/22386 (3rd page of comments)

So no License Agreement is upholdable unless it is printed and signed? Would that mean the GPL is junk since it neither does that or even a click through?
Before you go into how the GPL doesn't restrict you on what hardware you are allowed to use GPL code, thats not the point, its the Terms & Conditions that are called into question regardless of what they maybe in the License Agreement.

@r_a_trip
Obviously Mac OSX is the greatest OS currently available...

Well, that is the big question here, isn't it? Is OS X the greatest OS out there? Apple (and cult fans) tells us it is, but to know for sure, you have to make a leap of faith and buy a beige box in a pretty dress for a pretty steep markup.

When you do make the leap of faith, you either discover Macintosh + OS X is computing Valhalla or you find you basically bought an expensive but bog standard x86 machine, with a run of the mill *Nix with a prettied up shell.

I think most people would like to find out if the "Think different", "I'm a Mac / I'm a PC" and "It just works" marketing magic of Apple is the honest truth or just a puff of smoke up our collective rear.


Quote the complete sentence:
Obviously Mac OSX is the greatest OS currently available or why would there be so much discussion / debate on how Mac OSX should be available to be installed on non-Apple hardware.


If its not, again why all the fuss? Also "great" and "greatest" is a matter of opinion. Some might say the Beatles was the greatest rock band ever, others might not think that. To each their own.

Not disputing that Apple Hardware is not more expensive then the equivlent of Building It Yourself (piece by piece). But again it is the complete package. I can buy the same paint that any other artist does, but what i create with it might not have the value or worth that a famous artist's work does. Also I may not feel as though a painting by an artist is worth millions of dollars, but if someone else does, and is willing to pay it, then so be it.

Try before you buy? You can demo one at an Apple reseller or Apple Store. Not enough time to fully see if Mac OSX is the OS you want, so violating the License Agreement is justified? Go lease or rent an Apple computer then. Does any car dealer allow you to take / use the car you are interested in for longer then the amount of time for a test drive?

Cool Factor? Like how it is also trendy / cool to be anti-whatever is popular or deemed cool by the mainstream? That is just being a hypocrite, so your cool cause you think people who purchase over priced Apple products are idiots wanting to be be cool by jumping on the Apple bandwagon? Thats like all the "Alternative" Music fans, wanting to be non-mainstream / top 40s, but actually wind up making "Alternative" mainstream / top 40 from its popularity. Conforming to not-conforming? Oxymoron.

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