Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 10th Feb 2010 16:58 UTC
Opera Software As should be common knowledge by now, Apple is very restrictive and sometimes quite arbitrary in managing its App Store. One thing is clear, though: fat chance there's going to be an alternative browser in the App Store (i.e., one that doesn't use WebKit). Mozilla didn't even bother to submit Fennec, but Opera is going head-to-head with Apple: the Norwegian browser maker has announced Opera Mini for the iPhone, but has not yet submitted it for approval.
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RE[6]: Basis for suit?
by PresentIt on Fri 12th Feb 2010 06:58 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Basis for suit?"
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Oh and which law would that be?

European competition law.

The EU fines have been out of emotional resentment towards Microsoft, not as the result of breaking law.

No, this is just you being emotional and trying to make up some major conspiracy because of your ignorance.

The browser wars did not start with IE6 as the EU seems to assume.

The EU assumes no such thing. How about educating yourself before making silly statements like that?

How was Firefox able to gain a majority share in Germany? Was Microsoft not committing the same wrongdoings there?

Read the quote from Mozilla again. Thanks.

It's called low price / high volume. Opera's CEO should have lowered the price and built a market share. He made poor business decisions, not just keeping the price high but waiting too long to switch to an ad based revenue model. His plan to keep a banner ad displayed in the free version was probably the worst.

It's called "making money". There was no other viable business model. Maybe not having to make money works in Commie-land. It does not work in the real world.

Wrong, search-based revenue models were around as early as 2000.

Not available to browsers like Opera.

Make all the excuses you want but none can explain how Opera has done so poorly compared to Firefox.

Poorly? Since Opera removed the ads, the user base has more than doubled every 2 years. That's pretty good for a company which has had to stand on its own, unlike, say, Firefox! Read Mozilla's statement again, and realize that Firefox was also pushed by Google's online advertising monpoly. The same thing Google is using to push Chrome today. Notice a pattern?

Opera ran and whined to the EU because they are losing.

Opera's user base on the desktop was groing quickly in 2007 (and still is), and they were and are the dominant mobile browser. They were also making money and growing fast in all areas. How was Opera "losing" exactly?

All Opera did was to report Microsoft's crimes to the authorities. You are the one whining here.

They filed a complaint in 2007 which is after the IE6 lock had been broken.

And yet Microsoft continued to violate the law by bullying OEMs, blocking open standards, etc.

It isn't the fault of Microsoft if consumers don't want to install Opera.

Considering that Opera's user base has only grown, consumers do want to install Opera.

But what you are also failing to address in your amazing ignorance is that Mozilla and Google joined the complaint as well. They wholeheartedly supported the case against Microsoft. But I guess you think they were losing and consumers didn't want to use their products too, eh? LOL.

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