Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 11th Feb 2010 18:29 UTC
Opera Software Everybody's favourite Norwegian browser maker has released the beta version of Opera 10.50, the next iteration of the featureful web browser. As Kroc already touched upon late last year, Opera 10.50 comes packed with a lot of improvements across the board, from a new JavaScript engine to an improved address field.
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Only if you use the latest versions of Windows and their standard skins, change that and Opera's default look doesn't fit in.

Opera 10.10 and earlier do not use a cross-platform UI - that's something Opera have added in 10.5 with vega.

Wrong. They use a UI toolkit called "quick".

Opera 10.10 and earlier do not emulate MDI, they are pure Windows MDI apps that can work exactly like any other pure Windows MDI app.

Wrong again. They rewrote the UI using Quick in version 7. They had to re-implement everything from scratch.

They have directly stated that previous Windows versions used standard Windows MDI, and that the change to the vega graphics library

Wrong again. Yes, the situation is because of Vega, but they did not use standard Windows MDI. How could they, when they were using the Quick UI toolkit?

This is the case because Opera 10.10 and earlier are standard MDI apps under their skin.

Wrong. All "MDI" in Opera 7 and later is all re-implemented by Opera.

No, it isn't irrelevant, it's a separate, optional utility

It was made part of Opera (there's UI in the actual browser) after a beta. Fail.

No it isn't wrong. Look at the Opera version history that you linked. That makes it completely and unambiguously clear that those features were added in Opera updates, not features that changed between the beta and final.

Again, you are wrong.

All I'm saying - and this point is supported by Opera's history - is that their past betas were typically highly functional, more-or-less feature complete, and perfectly usable - with the major problems reported in pre-betas already fixed.

This is wrong. And furthermore, MDI is not a major problem. It's a trivial corner-case.

I simply find the fact that 10.5 is an exception to that rule very disappointing.

Again, you are wrong.

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