Linked by Kaj de Vos on Tue 8th Jun 2010 22:07 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS

The Syllable project is pleased to announce that the reports of its death have been greatly exaggerated, and that the new version 0.4 of Syllable Server has been released. This release focuses on maturing existing functionality, improving security, ongoing system restructuring, and making the system a suitable base for third-party package managers. Although the project admits it hasn't brought its unicorn factory online yet, extensive work was done on the nitty-gritty, so the full change log is quite long.

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RE[6]: Cool, I guess...
by Kaj-de-Vos on Wed 9th Jun 2010 13:35 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Cool, I guess..."
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It is telling that you say you dropped Syllable the moment we announced Syllable Server. This means you never gave it a chance, you never evaluated it. You just made an emotional decision based on the notion "Linux".

We, on the other hand, need to actually develop Syllable, and we can't do that based on emotional decisions. The machine, the hardware and the software, is forcing us to do the things that work. To the machine, "Linux" is just a byte array string in memory, if even that. Already almost half a decade ago I once did a line count on the Syllable source code, for fun. I knew the basic metrics of the system, but I was still surprised to find that our code was only four percent of the total that went into a system build. Of that four percent, most was drivers ported from the Linux kernel, XFree86, DirectFB and BeOS, so our own modifications comprised only a small portion of it. So our own code was probably less than one percent of the total code out of which Syllable Desktop was built. That was years ago, and we have gone on porting more drivers and libraries, so it will be even less now.

So the system you dumped so haphazardly was actually 99% a Linux distro, only without "Linux". Like I was surprised at how large this factor actually is, I have also been surprised at how unwilling people who consider themselves knowledgeable on the subject are to believe this - but that doesn't make it less true.

This has actually always been the strongest point of AtheOS and then Syllable Desktop: the extent to which it is able to use existing code. Without this ability, the project wouldn't have had a glimmer of a hope for relevance in this day and age, and people wouldn't be winding themselves up about it now.

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