Linked by Universal Mind on Fri 6th Aug 2010 16:16 UTC
Apple The "Macs are too expensive" argument is one of the most tiresome and long-lived flamewars in internet history. Obviously, Apple makes a premium product and charges premium prices, and you can always find a computer from another vendor that seems to match or exceed specs that costs less. But if you look at Apple's Mac Pro line, and compare it not so much to other vendors, but to the past lineup of Mac Pros, you discover some very unpleasant truths that help explain why Apple is enjoying record earnings for their Mac line, but doing so to the detriment of some its most loyal and valuable customers.
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jackeebleu
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2006-01-26

So I went to Apple's site, clicked all over the place trying to find this new expensive MacPro. Then it was, the great White Whale,

"Quad Core starting at $2499"
"8-core starting at $3499"
"12-core starting at $4999"

The machines are not yet available to be configured or priced. In fact on the macro main page it states, "Coming August".

So being a fan of being fair and balanced. I searched high and lo for machines that used the new Intel Xeon 5620 "Westmere" processor. Not HP, not Dell, but was able to track down a Lenovo ThinkStation. Tried my damnedest to match it specs to those listed on (http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html), but I found this:

(Here's pic proof, http://tinyurl.com/3yegnrm)
ThinkStation D20 Windows with SAS Hard Drive
System components
*Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64
*Tower 7x9 Mechanical with Intel 5520 Motherboard
*8GB ECC DDR3 PC3-8500 SDRAM (1GBx8 UDIMMS)
*ATI Fire Pro V7750 (1GB, DP+DP+DVI)
*Integrated Audio
*Internal RAID - Not Enabled
*300GB SAS 3.5" Hard Drive - 15000 rpm
*Lenovo 16x DVD +/- RW Dual Layer (Windows 7)
*Dual Integrated Broadcom Ethernet 10/100/1000
*IEEE 1394 Adapter
*Lenovo Preferred Pro USB Full Size Keyboard - US English
*Lenovo Optical Wheel Mouse - USB Primax 400 DPI
*Line Cord - US - U, F, D, S, T, L, A Models

Cost $5008 - $285= $4723

Per Apple's page:

*Two 2.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5620 “Westmere” processors
*ATI Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB of GDDR5 memory, PCI Express 2.0, two Mini DisplayPort outputs, and one dual-link DVI port
*Four FireWire 800 ports (two on front panel, two on back panel), Five USB 2.0 ports (two on front panel, three on back panel), Two USB 2.0 ports on included keyboard
Front-panel headphone minijack and internal speaker, Optical digital audio input and output TOSLINK ports, Analog stereo line-level input and output minijacks, Multichannel audio through Mini DisplayPort
*1TB or 2TB hard drives, Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200 rpm, 32MB cache, 512GB solid-state drive, Serial ATA 3Gb/s
* 18x SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
*Keyboard/Mouse included

And again, looking like it's gonna start around $3500, we don't know because Apple hasn't posted the config for the new machines yet. On that approximation alone, the author is basically FOS.

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