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Yes MacPros are very overpriced. I started using Macs in 2005 too and got hooked to the slick OS, UI etc. But back in 2005 the difference between an iMac/MacBook Pro and a similarly configured Dell/HP as about $200-300. Which was ok for me given the nicer user experience.
I never bothered to compare the MacPro with a similar config earlier. After reading this article I did quick comparison today - it is not pretty (at the end of the post).
Compared to a (assemble yourself) similar tech config (except OS) MacPro is ~59% more expensive!!
Does anyone have similar comparison for an iMac or MacBook Pro equivalent?
Yes Macs are more expensive - but I have enjoyed using them. Prior to Macs I used Debian, Ubuntu, almost exclusively (I was a grad student with lots of time to tinker :-)). And at work Windows XP. By far Mac OS X has been the most trouble free experience.
Yes I have heard the arguments - Win7 is great and that Ubuntu can now configure almost anything painlessly. Once in a while I check those out again and still find them a little short of the OS X experience. But that alone is not enough to justify a 59% markup!! So I will almost never buy a MacPro.
(Win7 - I have to use it at work and it is dog slow on my very decent desktop.)
I do not need a quad/oct core beast for even the development work I do. Infact, I would like to develop on a machine config that is closer to what my users will run the application on so a Mac Pro is certainly out.
As part of my day job I have analyzed/benchmarked several client applications. They are *not* highly threaded (2-3 threads at most, and do not scale). Cinebench and Povray are exceptions that scale with the number of cores. Most other applications are not - this is from practical experience benchmarking and studying applicatons.
Unless you have a special application, that you use, which will scale to 8 threads etc it is not worth buying a 8-threaded beast. Even four threads will be over kill for most people but it is not too expensive.
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A config similar to a Mac Pro (with a ATI card) that is priced $2700
Intel Xeon E5640 2.66GHz 12 MB L3 $799.99 [1]
ATI Radeon HD 4870 $144.99 [2]
2GB Kingston SDRAM ECC DDR3 1066 - $69.99 [3]
1GB should roughly be - $35
Hard Disk: $74.99 [4]
DVD writer: $31.99 [5]
Motherboard: $139.99 [6]
Keyboard: $29 [7]
Mouse: $19.95
Case etc (I'll be generous): $150
Win7 (Home Premium) = $199.99
$800+ $145 + 70 + 35 + 75 + + 32 + 140 + + 29 + 20 + 150 + 200 = 1696
Total: 1696
(2700-1700)/1700 = 59%
1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117232
2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150436&cm_...
3. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134942&cm_...
4. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
5. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335&cm_...
6. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412
7. http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-A11-00337-Natural-Keyboard-Elite/dp...
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