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Legal Despite doing what I think are some great things for the American people, the Obama administration has a dark side. Joe Biden and many others on staff come straight from the RIAA camp, and it shows. Today, the Obama administration disregarded every US law relating to theft and copyright by stating that piracy is "flat, unadulterated theft".
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RE[7]: Screwed again
by FuriousGeorge on Wed 1st Sep 2010 12:00 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Screwed again"
FuriousGeorge
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2010-08-26

Why am I not convinced? You're blinded by your own hate.


Dunno. For instance, I really don't hate bush. When he dodged those shoes and smirked at his assailant I was proud to be an American.

For example, with every evidence of a straight face, you credited President Clinton for the fiscal situation in 2000, but blamed President Reagan for the fiscal situation in 2008. Didn't they teach you in school that President Clinton served after President Reagan?


If you read carefully you will see that I blamed Reagonomics (e.g. deregulation and regressive "trickle down"/"voodoo economics" tax policy) for '08, not Reagan himself.

Let me guess: You were kidding there, too.

You admitted that your initial swipe at Mr. Reagan was wrong.


That's a bit of a misrepresentation. I admitted that Reagan oversaw the SECOND biggest increase in debt by percentage of GDP in the modern era, behind Bush II.

At first I thought it was the largest, but turns out Bush II edges him out.

You make it sound like it detracts from my point.

Your next step is to realize that Mr. Obama's eye-popping deficits are no more in the "don't matter" category than Mr. Bush's - they are a grave danger to our country.


I can't realize that because it isn't true. This is only Obama's debt to the extent that it is also Obama's bush tax cuts, Obama's wars, Obama's TARP, Obama's bail outs, Obama's medicare part D, etc. (in other words, not at all).

Yes, Obama did bail out GM, but they have repaid that loan. Yes, Obama did push for a stimulus but that wasn't some tax-and-spend whim. It was 40% tax cuts and more importantly it was necessitated by the complete and total failure of Reaganomics (not Reagan per se), and what everyone agrees is the greatest economic disaster since the 1920s.

Yes, Obama pushed for health care reform (read: campaign promise), but you cited the CBO earlier, and we both know the CBO scores that bill in the positive, so that can't count against the debt.

Get past the "R's bad, D's good" chant from your non sequitur-laden earlier post. Judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their state.

It's not too late.


Why do you assume that I hate all R's? From Lincoln to Teddy R to Eisenhower to Nixon and Bush I's foreign policy, I have a lot of good things to say about Rs.

There are even a lot of things I like about Bush II, but policy wise I'm in the 80% of Americans that give him a negative approval rating.

That hardly makes me radical.

My point is, blaming Obama for the deficit/debt might fly for a cable news audience, but it is hardly a fair assessment.

Edited 2010-09-01 12:09 UTC

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