Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 10th Sep 2010 23:38 UTC
Legal EULAs, and whatever nonsense they may contain, are legally binding in the US. Have a great weekend!
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TheGZeus
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2010-05-19

Was anything in the way you decided to address me neccessary?

Why did you feel the need to be rude?

How is the creation and distribution of a derivative work not a 'use' of the software?

There's this stigma attached do the term EULA, but it's a general term that absolutely encompasses free software licenses.

If you make proprietary licenses invalid, you have to do the same for Free licenses.
Copyright is the only law that covers both sides of the software fence.
The copyright owners can grant/deny anything in regards to their work.
Them's the facts.

Installation is copying, data is not moved, it is copied.
Once the copy is made, if they require destruction of the original, that's fucked up, but it's within their rights, that's the fucked up part of this case.

Their EULA is too far-reaching. It extends past what is reasonable. Same with many proprietary licenses.

That doesn't change the fact that 'user' is a very broad term, and I see no difference between a 'user' of software and a 'programmer' of software.

You were very rude to me because you felt the need to demonise an accurate term.
"AARGH! EULA HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION TO ME! I MUST SCREAM AT PEOPLE TO PROVE THAT I AM NOT AN END USER WHEN I USE CODE AND ALLOW OTHERS TO USE THE RESULT!!"
Is not a very good way to get your point across.

Neither is saying that copyright licenses are different from EULA. EULA only cover copyrighted work, are only enforceable if the conveyor of the license owns the copyright, or has been explicitly been given the right to distribute licenses to third parties and enforce said licenses by the owner of said copyrighted work.

This is basic logic, and there's no need for the vitriol you're spewing at me.
Distribution can be a use.

Just because EULA is normally associated with proprietary licenses does not make creating a derivative work or redistribution something other than a possible use of a copyrighted work.

The warranty clause is the only thing that mentions use in the GPL and most other free software licenses, but that's explicitly giving you the right to use it, but leaving you with no right to sue if you do and dislike the results.

That still covers use, the user, and the copyright holder.


Learn to control your emotions a bit more, and be a bit more chill, like the happy fun-time rainbow unicorn in your avatar.

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