Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Sep 2010 22:42 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu If there's one consistent piece of criticism that gets lobbed in Canonical's and Mark Shuttleworth's direction, it's that they do not contribute enough code - or anything else for that matter - to the Free software world. Mark Shuttleworth has apparently had enough, and has written a very, very lengthy blog post detailing how he feels about this criticism.
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dragossh
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2008-12-16

That's one definition, but if you want to stick to it, then fine, let's use the original qualifier; how can Canonical step up in their selfishness? There aren't any more steps. They are pretty much as selfish as distributions go.

That's another thing ;) Selfish, yes. That I can agree with.

And of course, what happens when NVIDIA decides to stop supporting certain cards, what are those users to do? How is Ubuntu addressing that problem that will happen eventually. They aren't doing anything at all, they rely utterly and completely on the linux community to solve that problem.

What happens when NVIDIA decides to stop supporting certain cards, what are those users to do? How is Microsfot addressing that problem that will happen eventually? They aren't doing anything at all, they rely utterly and completely on the NVIDIA developers to solve tha -- oops, I guess NVIDIA won't solve that problem, you need to buy a new graphics card.

It would be strictly true, but deceiving. The true linux community did it; Fedora, Debian, Archlinux... not Ubuntu. Ubuntu only takes, never gives. A leecher.

You are free to get their modified code and compile it. So is any other distribution.

Based on what? Did you dream it? How about you try to form your opinions on facts?

No, but I used to use Fedora. And its installer was more complicated for a NORMAL USER than Ubuntu's one.

When Fedora introduced it in a release it worked perfectly fine, otherwise they wouldn't have included it. Fedora is fertile ground for innovation and stays stable. Of course you wouldn't know that because Ubuntu tells you that if they are not doing it, it must be wrong, and you believe it.

PackageKit? Oh yes, did I say PackageKit was shit? Quite the opposite, actually.

As for Nouveau, which is an example of ITLLWORKLATER... I still remember the joy of having to force Fedora to use the VESA driver, remove nouveau, add a repo and install the binary blob. I'm sure a normal user that is scared by even seeing the prompt will just go back to Windows!

Are you insane? Nobody is relying on Canonical, that's precisely the point; Canonical doesn't contribute.

No, but you seem to have a problem understanding English. And you still didn't respond to my question, instead preferring to attack me.

Why are you repeating the same? Yes, they can decide to not collaborate, and they are doing so, we are merely pointing the fact that they are doing it.

Because you keep implying that Canonical is somehow doing a wrong thing by not collaborating. No, they're just making a nice package for normal users. Or maybe they're sick of the elitist attitude many Linux "community members" show.

What are you even talking about? The point is that they contribute.

But pacman doesn't work nicely (as in -- not leaving the system confused) on other distros than Arch.

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