Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Oct 2010 21:23 UTC, submitted by addoula
Opera Software Opera Extensions have been confirmed as a feature of Opera 11. "Extensions in Opera is a way for you to easily add new functionality to your Opera browser experience. Developers can easily create extensions using open standards (HTML5, CSS, JavaScript) and supported APIs. Extensions will be based on the W3C Widget specifications and this is being considered for an Open Standard effort."
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RE[4]: Wrong priorities
by pandronic on Fri 15th Oct 2010 13:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Wrong priorities"
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Even if browser makers would behave (and they don't, Microsoft I'm looking at you) the "full potential" is still a moving target. Of course, I can only dream of a time when in my development I'll be looking only to the future without wasting time on the past, but realistically speaking it's not going to happen ... ever.

The problem is that change in standards adoption doesn't happen over night and at the end of the day you have to support legacy as long as there is money in it. For example we've stopped supporting IE6 when it dropped under 10% usage, but I have clients that will still probably demand support (and pay for it) for quite some time.

I don't mention the availability of tools to "standardize" those sites because I know nothing about it, I can only guess such tools are more available now that the open source software wave has reached us than back then, in the late 90's or just after...


There is no tool to change bad code into good code. There are better code editors, better WYSIWYG editors, but still you have to know what you're doing. People think that making sites is something that you can pick up in a week or two. When I tell them that it takes years of learning and experience they look at me like I'm an idiot. This is the attitude that's prevailing among customers and it shows in the quality of the code that's out there.

I don't have much faith in clueless people's will to exert intelligence or simply put their brain to use. I think they'll eat whatever they are served.


True to some extent. Clueless people also have money to spend on-line (so we don't want to piss them off) and also don't like change (I know of a colleague designer that works on Win 98, Photoshop 6, IE6 and Firefox 2 - and he's making good money out of the sites he makes).

As a web developer who has (had?) to deal with such sites, what are the reasons that prevent some of them from "moving on", redesigning, etc? Is it monetary considerations? service interruption? not seeing the benefit of going clean and standard? or else?


The major reason is money and maybe a little service interruption. Clean and standard is not an issue. Clients don't know and don't care what happens under the hood.

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