Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd Oct 2010 22:11 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Internet Explorer "There, I said it. Microsoft has been bombarding the media with claims about how much better IE9 is than all the other browsers, more HTML5 and CSS3 compliant than any other browser that ever existing and ever will. It's the only browser that passes all the tests they made up. And, Microsoft has finally implemented the CSS3 selectors that were implemented by other browsers back in, what? 2003? Because Microsoft has updated IE to support CSS3 selectors and rounded corners, they want us to believe that somehow IE9 magically supports the whole slew of CSS3 visual styling. I'm afraid it doesn't. As a matter of fact, IE9's support for CSS3 visual styling is so poor that the results are shocking."
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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by mabhatter on Mon 25th Oct 2010 00:05 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
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A Microsoft employee not to long ago addressed the issue of open standards and the fact remains that man of the browsers have buggy implementations that are silently fixed up with updates. I suggest anyone who thinks otherwise should check out the bug entries over at webkit to see the bugs relating to conformance being fixed.

Regarding Internet Explorer 9's conformance; again, another article was posted regarding Microsoft writing tests for standards that have no conformance tests - those have been submitted to W3C with many of the browsers testing and fixing up bugs behind the scenes. Like the whole Flash and 'poor performance on Mac OS X' fiasco, there seems to be a certain group of loud mouths spouting crap via their blog whilst ignoring that the situation is more complex than just 'Microsoft sucking' as the blogger implied.

In closing, if the individual believes that it is a bug then why hasn't he contacted Microsoft or started a conversation over on Channel 9/MSDN forums? the venue is open to discuss such issues but it seem to be he is more concerned with generating traffic to his website than actually being proactive about getting the problem sorted.

But that's Microsoft's "standards" MO. They read the raw standard and implement it "to the letter". But they go out of their way to play games with things like "may" versus "shall" getting all rules lawyer. Rather than just playing along. They then flood the standard's maintainer with boxes of bug reports or "clarifications" on every little thing. These guys are way smart, but Microsoft breeds the kind of employees that would cheat little kids out of their lunch money with no conscience.

I play some Magic:TG and hang out with some DnD folks too. I see people that are brilliant do this all the time and it makes things Unfun and stressful for no reason, they have some sociopathic need to "win" all the time and won't follow or be led at all. They do this to throw political monkey wrenches into the existing community, forcing existing players to support Microsoft or some small player. IE9 is a symptom that Microsoft has not changed their culture at all, at some point trying to undermine "everybody else" the folks wake up and realize if they cut YOU out things go better.

It's all a big game to get the customers and businesses locked-in. WE are the product being sold to marketing firms and content providers. So it's important IE9 supports things that marketers and content firms need.. because THEY buy the big ASP and .NET installs and development tools. YOU just buy a cheap license from an OEM, they've got your money all ready.

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