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Features, Office "We all knew that it would come to this and it has finally happened - 33 developers have left OpenOffice.org to join The Documents Foundation, with more expected to leave in the next few days. After Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems, OpenOffice.org fell into the hands of Oracle, as did a lot of other products. So, last month a few very prominent members of the OpenOffice.org community decided to form The Documents Foundation and fork OpenOffice.org as LibreOffice, possibly fearing that it could go the OpenSolaris way."
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RE: oracle
by Doc Pain on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 04:25 UTC in reply to "oracle"
Doc Pain
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2006-10-08

Even tho this software still a piece of garbage, [...] It should load as fast as gnumeric. But now that oracle owns it just going to be slower and slower just like their other products.


I think you're not being fare. Comparing OpenOffice to GNumeric is not valid as GNumeric "is less than" OpenOffice (a spreadsheed application vs. a full-featured office suite). GNumeric, just like Abiword, is a "more stand-alone" program, allthough to be seen as part of Gnome's office suite (but quite independent of Gnome).

Still, I can partly agree with your statement. Modern software tends to get slower and slower, that's true. If you would compare today's OpenOffice (version 3) to an older version (version 1), you would see that the older versions often load faster even on older systems. If you then maybe compare more backwards to StarOffice... well, seems to be a lot faster.

The reason? Because there's much more functionality inside, like script processing engines, extensive input and output filters, and all the other litlle things - MANY little things - users are interested in. With the implementation based upon newer sets of libraries that need certain dependencies that need certain dependencies that rely on other dependencies... cont. ad. n... it's obvious that such a program CAN'T be fast unless you upgrade your hardware and software along with that program.

Another point I'd like to mention in this regards is the trend of modularization. For example, OpenOffice version 1 and 2 contained a german dictionary in the default localized install. Today, those doesn't seem to be part of the localized builds anymore. I think that's sad - spending hours on compliling and then still missing essential parts that have been present in the past.

I'm not sure Oracle is to be blamed here, as the trend I pointed out is visible across many (most?) software products. With today's more-than-enough resources on hardware, there seems to be no need for efficient programming. "Go buy a new PC!" seems to solve everything.

For example, if I compare the startup times of OpenOffice 2 on FreeBSD 5 on a 300 MHz P2 vs. OpenOffice 3 on FreeBSD 7 on a 2 GHz P4, I can see that the older system loads faster. On the other hand, it's not so important how fast a program loads - this is O(1) - but how well it performs when in use - that would be some kind of O(n), "scientifically" spoken. :-)

Coming back to your initial statement, I found myself more and more often using Abiword and GNumeric instead of OpenOffice because of speed issues. The only times I fire up OpenOffice if I reach the limits of the other programs (mostly related to importing nonstandard file formats).

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