Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Apr 2011 22:06 UTC, submitted by sjvn
SuSE, openSUSE Attachmate now owns Novell and therefore, by extension, also owns SUSE and openSUSE. With Oracle currently doing everything in its power to thoroughly destroy what's left of Sun's open source commitments, scepticism abound about the future of SUSE, and more specifically of openSUSE. Attachmate's CEO has answered some questions about the future of SUSE and openSUSE, and as far as words go, it's looking good.
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RE[7]: As far as words go....
by pantheraleo on Mon 2nd May 2011 06:03 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: As far as words go...."
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I knew you were just making stuff up, because Java is almost not being used any more and nobody is using ruby etc.

The number they have for Java is total BS, and any amount of research would prove it is obviously wrong (as would any understanding of how Java powered Web sites are set up). The reason it is total BS is because there is no way for you to tell that a Web Site is using Java. Unlike PHP, which typically can be discovered because Apache will report that it is running mod_php if you query it for what modules it has installed (a security hole btw, that server admins should disable, but most of them don't) most Java sites just report that they are running Apache HTTPD server because Apache proxies requests for dynamic content to a Java application server behind the scenes. So any attempt to tell how many Web Sites are using Java is completely flawed.

Here are some statistics that are not flawed however:

* Java is the #1 language on Sourceforge.
* IBM, Red Hat, Oracle, VMWare, and HP are all strongly behind Java.
* 100% of Fortune 1000 companies use Java.

And here are some current numbers from as far as the demand for various languages. From most demand to least demand:

Java: 15911 job listings
.NET: 9084 job listings
PHP: 2996 job listings
Python: 2447 job listings
Ruby: 1478 job listings
Coldfusion: 335 job listings.

Java is clearly the dominant platform. The only platform that is even on the radar as a potential threat is .NET.

Also, according to Simply Hired, demand for Java developers increased 10% between September of 2009, and January of 2011. A 10% increase in job demand (even though we went through the worst recession since the 1930s) would be a good trick to pull off for a language "that is hardly ever used anymore" as you put it. Demand for PHP jobs also increased 10%, which means that PHP made no gains on Java at all in that period.

.NET was stagnant and saw no net increase in job demand.

So yeah, I'm afraid I have to call that statistic you posted exactly what it is. BS. And if you read the disclaimer at the site you got it from, and if you knew how most Java application servers are invisible because they run behind an Apache instance acting as a proxy, you'd know why those statistics are BS.

Edited 2011-05-02 06:19 UTC

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