Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd May 2011 22:27 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption " on Monday reported that an online Sony gaming network has once again fallen victim to a cyberattack. This time, the attack may have exposed the credit card numbers of thousands of Sony customers from around the world. According to the report, over 12,700 customer credit card numbers were stolen during a breach of Sony’s online gaming network, Sony Online Entertainment. According to, Sony discovered the possible attack on Sunday."
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RE[2]: Out of band authentication
by Alfman on Tue 3rd May 2011 22:55 UTC in reply to "RE: Out of band authentication"
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"However, here in The Netherlands, everything is done either in cash, or 'via PIN' (debit card/bank card), as we call it."

You keep saying this, and it may be true in your country, but I wouldn't be so positive that visa will always deny signature transactions with merchants outside of your country.

If what you are saying is accurate, I have no idea how you would use your debit card online. Obviously (or hopefully) you do not submit your personal pin on commercial websites.

In regards to the sony case, the loss of this information is very bad for both debit and credit cards.

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